This deferential coverage of the Criminal Conclave is making me sick...

**Mlaw** · 03-12-2013, 10:35 AM

If NAMBLA were electing a new leader would networks be covering the process as if they were choosing the Messiah?

**FlaFlaFlunkie** · 03-12-2013, 10:36 AM

They're treating it like a political election when it's just a bunch of old codgers, nominating whoever they think will protect their secrets the best.

**Chriza** · 03-12-2013, 10:37 AM

It looks like a Daveindiego lookalike contest

**Mlaw** · 03-12-2013, 10:39 AM

They are analyzing the weather because they are worried about being able to see the smoke

**MatthewT** · 03-12-2013, 10:41 AM

NAMBLA's less evil

**fletchman71** · 03-12-2013, 10:41 AM

Ok we get it, you don't like Catholics. Get over it. The anti-religion sentiment in the US is amazing.

**Mlaw** · 03-12-2013, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by fletchman71

Ok we get it, you don't like Catholics. Get over it. The anti-religion sentiment in the US is amazing.

I am a Catholic, I don't like my faith being corrupted,and my parishes being bankrupted because rapists were shielded from criminal prosecution by an organized criminal conspiracy

**fletchman71** · 03-12-2013, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Mlaw

I am a Catholic, I don't like my faith being corrupted,and my parishes being bankrupted because rapists were shielded from criminal prosecution by an organized criminal conspiracy

Don't believe the media shitstorm where they try to portray every priest as a pedophile. This shit happens and it is a shame how the church handled it but you should try going back to church and talking with your parish priest and make your own choice whether to keep going or not. I am no bible thumper and I haven't been to church in a long time but I get upset at all of the anti-Catholic reports happening everywhere.

**MatthewT** · 03-12-2013, 10:55 AM

pedophilia is the least of their problems

**Chaos** · 03-12-2013, 10:58 AM

I don't care for the church but I dig the ancient ritual of it.

**Mlaw** · 03-12-2013, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by fletchman71

Don't believe the media shitstorm where they try to portray every priest as a pedophile. This shit happens and it is a shame how the church handled it but you should try going back to church and talking with your parish priest and make your own choice whether to keep going or not. I am no bible thumper and I haven't been to church in a long time but I get upset at all of the anti-Catholic reports happening everywhere.

my journey away from the church began long before the rape scandals, mostly due the subservient role women are forced to take, both those who serve the church and the faithful. The scandals, merely solidified my decision. The media has merely reported and uncovered the facts. Lawyers, very brave ones, uncovered a paper trail that goes all the way up to The Vatican

**fletchman71** · 03-12-2013, 11:00 AM

Not letting priests marry is the worst rule the Catholic Church still has and probably contributed quite a lot to the pedo priest problem.

**Lemmy** · 03-12-2013, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by fletchman71

Don't believe the media shitstorm where they try to portray every priest as a pedophile. This shit happens and it is a shame how the church handled it but you should try going back to church and talking with your parish priest and make your own choice whether to keep going or not. I am no bible thumper and I haven't been to church in a long time but I get upset at all of the anti-Catholic reports happening everywhere.

They don't portray every priest as a pedophile......the church has, however, covered for every priest that is. Blame the church for their shit, corrupt reputation. If you wish to support a criminal enterprise and feel sorry for their bad reputation then you work to change that. I chose to point and laugh instead.

**Mlaw** · 03-12-2013, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by fletchman71

Not letting priests marry is the worst rule the Catholic Church still has and probably contributed quite a lot to the pedo priest problem.

The rule is just one in the many efforts to keep the role of women under control. If priest could marry, who would be the most cherished confidant? A woman---they can't have that. Women must stay in abusive marriages, continue with unwanted or dangerous pregnancies whether the husbands is working, cheating, abusive etc.

They can't hold any positions of authority, and although they are the backbone of the church, women have no say in who leads them. Celibacy is the only one factor

**MatthewT** · 03-12-2013, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Mlaw

my journey away from the church began long before the rape scandals, mostly due the subservient role women are forced to take, both those who serve the church and the faithful. The scandals, merely solidified my decision. The media has merely reported and uncovered the facts. Lawyers, very brave ones, uncovered a paper trail that goes all the way up to The Vatican

ironic, as they worship a woman

**MatthewT** · 03-12-2013, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Mlaw

The rule is just one in the many efforts to keep the role of women under control. If priest could marry, who would be the most cherished confidant? A woman---they can't have that. Women must stay in abusive marriages, continue with unwanted or dangerous pregnancies whether the husbands is working, cheating, abusive etc.

They can't hold any positions of authority, and although they are the backbone of the church, women have no say in who leads them. Celibacy is the only one factor

nope; it's all about money. a single man is cheaper to support, and will leave any pittance he has back to the church. also, his family estate will go to the church. everything he has, and is, goes to the church.

notice the lack of the word Jesus in these statements.

**Suzy** · 03-12-2013, 11:24 AM

I have an acquaintance who is a Monsignor currently in Rome on a teaching assignment. He is also covering the conclave for Catholic University and writing a daily blog. This is an excerpt from today's story: "Clearly, the major topic in the (confidential!) discussions among the cardinals concerns the qualifications of the next Holy Father to deal with a number of very important issues facing the Church today. It seems that, at the top of the list, is someone who has or can deal decisively with clergy sex abuse of minors. This earthquake has not stopped quaking in our Church, much to our dismay and shame. I am profoundly grateful that the College of Cardinals not only know that abuse is on their radar, but that it has to be front and center in deciding who can lead us internationally away from this earthquake."

As a Catholic myself, who is disgusted with the abuse scandals, i too am very glad to read this and hope it comes to fruition.