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    Summation of our current state of affairs

    just came across this. kind of sums it all up.....
    relax hopey changy bbc "daddy" worshippers, this has been ongoing for the last 50yrs, you're just the current problem.



    The Truth Behind Our Entitlement Culture

    By Steve Tobak
    Published February 07, 2013


    Entitlements are two-thirds of the federal budget. Entitlement spending has grown 100-fold over the past 50 years. Half of all American households now rely on government handouts.
    When we hear statistics like that, most of us shake our heads and mutter some sort of expletive. That’s because nobody thinks they’re the problem. Nobody ever wants to think they’re the problem.
    But that’s not the truth.
    The truth is, as long as we continue to think of the rising entitlement culture in America as someone else’s problem, someone else’s fault, we’ll never truly understand it and we’ll have absolutely zero chance of altering its dangerous course.
    The truth is that America’s growing entitlement culture is far more pervasive than people realize. It’s also far more top-down than people realize. Indeed, the entitlement mindset that’s infecting America starts with our leadership, and not just in Washington, either.
    The truth is that nobody wants to give up their stuff. Not our congressional leaders with their pork projects and no term limits, not our corrupt and power-hungry regulators, not our ridiculously overcompensated big-company CEOs, not our public union workers, not our overhyped and overpaid celebrities.
    And certainly not everyone else. Why? Because, folks have this perception that everyone is getting rich but them. When they see leaders who aren’t held accountable making big bucks they don’t deserve, what do you think happens? That’s right. They become resentful, jealous, angry, and selfish. They want their piece of American Pie. And why shouldn’t they?
    So, you want to know what’s fueling our entitlement state? You really want to know? Okay.

    Here’s the truth:


    Out of control executive compensation. In a 1984 essay, Peter Drucker, the father of modern management, argued that executive pay was out of control and lucrative severance packages destroyed accountability. “This is morally and socially unforgivable,” he said, “and we will pay a heavy price for it.” It’s gotten far, far worse since then. And there’s no end in sight.


    Politicians getting rich on perks, trading stocks, speaking engagements, consulting, endorsements, investments, book deals, and who knows how else. No, Al Gore isn’t the only politician to make a fortune off his political clout, but he is, in my opinion, the poster child for hypocritical greed and gluttony. Don’t you find it at all odd how much more money politicians have than they make doing their “jobs?”
    (this this this this this this this, cant stress enough, THIS MOTHERFUCKAS....why would any of you patsys defend these crooks?) term limits changes everything & puts us back on track......!!!!!!!!!!


    All the corruption in the entitlement system. When people see others on the take, they get the sense that it’s okay for them to do the same thing. There are people here in California living in million dollar homes and getting government handouts. No kidding.


    Pervasive partisan rhetoric and gridlock. When our leaders in Washington can’t get anything done except divide the nation and point fingers at each other, people become sort of numb to it. So they say to themselves, “If the politicians aren’t getting anything done, if they aren’t earning their pay, then why should I?”


    Crony capitalism. When the banks, the regulators, the lobbyists, the Treasury, the Fed, the credit rating agencies, and who knows who else, all get caught with their pants down and American taxpayers have to bail them out, they get sort of fed up. Can you blame them?


    Public employee union benefits. Employee contracts, great pay, generous pensions, free healthcare, no wonder all the states and municipalities are going broke. I never thought I’d see the day when it would pay off to be a government bureaucrat. Something’s very, very wrong here.


    Out of control government spending. What kind of example does that set for American families? When our government is sitting on a mound of record debt and there’s no accountability, why should Americans be fiscally responsible?


    Never let a good crisis go to waste. Whether the Dems are really buying voters by giving them stuff, or the GOP has a bad case of sour grapes it calls “the changing demographics of America,” it doesn’t matter. Neither side misses an opportunity to demagogue the other. And that leaves everyone feeling like they’re being used. It’s demotivating, to say the least.


    High corporate tax rates pushing corporations to park profits offshore. I don’t fault our corporations for seeking tax havens in other countries. Our high corporate tax rates and loopholes are to blame. But when companies skirt taxes, what message does that send to the people?


    Burden of illegal aliens on society and infrastructure. One of most demoralizing issues for those who jump through all the hoops to immigrate to this country legally is that people who break the law somehow end up with all sorts of handouts anyway.


    Athletes and entertainers making ungodly amounts of money. That, and the excesses of all the celebrities, reality TV stars, pop culture icons, and society people like the Kardashians and Lindsay Lohan. That just adds to the jealousy factor and the “where’s my piece of the pie?” mentality. The saddest thing about it is how many of them still end up blowing it and going bankrupt.


    It’s in our schools and in our speech. There are no winners or losers anymore. Everyone gets a gold star. Everyone gets an award. There are no individuals, no standouts. We wouldn’t want to offend anyone. Everything has to be inclusive, especially in our politically correct speech. That takes all the power out of the concept of individual responsibility and exceptionalism.

    The truth is that America’s growing entitlement culture is coming from everywhere. From our leaders in both the private and public sectors, from our schools, from our speech, from our popular culture, from what our notion of capitalism has become.

    And eventually, one way or another, America will collapse under its weight.

    Margaret Thatcher once said, “The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” Well, we’re not supposed to be a socialist nation, but the problem that Thatcher describes does seem to fit our situation perfectly.


    America is indeed changing. And it isn’t somebody else’s fault. It’s yours and mine. And only you and I can change it.

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    The "greatest generation" was appropriate title for that group. The Baby Boomers were a step down, Generation X was another step down, Generation Y/millenials--they really suck. Its not looking too good for American exceptionalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiotGrip View Post
    The "greatest generation" was appropriate title for that group. The Baby Boomers were a step down, Generation X was another step down, Generation Y/millenials--they really suck. Its not looking too good for American exceptionalism.
    what you described is generational, if you are born into it, then you expect thats the way it should always be...its ingrained.
    i like how he covers every aspect from bad parenting to washington...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stripes View Post
    what you described is generational, if you are born into it, then you expect thats the way it should always be...its ingrained.
    i like how he covers every aspect from bad parenting to washington...
    True, its basically all boomers and GenX in government right now. Sadly almost all of the "greatest generation" are dead. 50 years ago you rarely heard someone say "I've done enough". Now people who are successfull think "they've done enough", and people who aren't say "give me more".
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    Social Security and Medicare are entitlements????????

    The whole premise of that bullshit piece is crap.


    Athletes and entertainers making ungodly amounts of money. That, and the excesses of all the celebrities, reality TV stars, pop culture icons, and society people like the Kardashians and Lindsay Lohan. That just adds to the jealousy factor and the “where’s my piece of the pie?” mentality. The saddest thing about it is how many of them still end up blowing it and going bankrupt.

    Is this guy a communist? What an America hater. Fuck him.

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    High corporate tax rates pushing corporations to park profits offshore. I don’t fault our corporations for seeking tax havens in other countries. Our high corporate tax rates and loopholes are to blame. But when companies skirt taxes, what message does that send to the people.

    If the tax rate was 1% and a corporation could pay 0% by gaming the system, wouldn't they? Corporate taxes are not too high.

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    All the corruption in the entitlement system. When people see others on the take, they get the sense that it’s okay for them to do the same thing. There are people here in California living in million dollar homes and getting government handouts. No kidding.



    What the fuck is he talking about? Does he want to make sure the rich pay more taxes now????

    This guy is all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosch76 View Post
    Social Security and Medicare are entitlements????????

    The whole premise of that bullshit piece is crap.


    Athletes and entertainers making ungodly amounts of money. That, and the excesses of all the celebrities, reality TV stars, pop culture icons, and society people like the Kardashians and Lindsay Lohan. That just adds to the jealousy factor and the “where’s my piece of the pie?” mentality. The saddest thing about it is how many of them still end up blowing it and going bankrupt.

    Is this guy a communist? What an America hater. Fuck him.
    you are kidding me? are you that dumb to not even know whats classified as entitlements?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosch76 View Post
    High corporate tax rates pushing corporations to park profits offshore. I don’t fault our corporations for seeking tax havens in other countries. Our high corporate tax rates and loopholes are to blame. But when companies skirt taxes, what message does that send to the people.

    If the tax rate was 1% and a corporation could pay 0% by gaming the system, wouldn't they? Corporate taxes are not too high.
    comparativley to other free market nations where they are learning that lower corp tax rates attracts business...taxes dont operate in a vaccuum in a world economy, corps have options, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosch76 View Post
    High corporate tax rates pushing corporations to park profits offshore. I don’t fault our corporations for seeking tax havens in other countries. Our high corporate tax rates and loopholes are to blame. But when companies skirt taxes, what message does that send to the people.

    If the tax rate was 1% and a corporation could pay 0% by gaming the system, wouldn't they? Corporate taxes are not too high.
    No, because it costs money to "game the system".
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    Quote Originally Posted by stripes View Post
    you are kidding me? are you that dumb to not even know whats classified as entitlements?
    nope. he's really that dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stripes View Post
    comparativley to other free market nations where they are learning that lower corp tax rates attracts business...taxes dont operate in a vaccuum in a world economy, corps have options, sorry.
    Ireland has a 0% corporate tax rate. As long as we charge any tax at all, by your logic the tax rate is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stripes View Post
    you are kidding me? are you that dumb to not even know whats classified as entitlements?
    Why can't you fuckheads answer a question.

    What does he mean by entitlements? he says it is 2/3 of our budget?

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    No, because it costs money to "game the system".
    How much is 1% of a billion dollars? Enough to pay an account to avoid paying 1% of a billion dollars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosch76 View Post
    How much is 1% of a billion dollars? Enough to pay an account to avoid paying 1% of a billion dollars?
    you're the expert, tell me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I invented that View Post
    you're the expert, tell me.
    I just did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosch76 View Post
    I just did.
    so you're saying it would be a wash. that means there would be no motivation to "game the system".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosch76 View Post
    How much is 1% of a billion dollars? Enough to pay an account to avoid paying 1% of a billion dollars?
    its stoopud shit like this is the reason no one wants to bother answering you...you exist here to fuck with everyone. got old brah
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    Quote Originally Posted by stripes View Post
    its stoopud shit like this is the reason no one wants to bother answering you...you exist here to fuck with everyone. got old brah
    I exist to point our your flawed reasoning.

    He says we need to lower the corporate rate to be below every other country so companies can save money in paying accountants to avoid US taxes?

    I mean come on, how stupid is that?

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