New Conspiracy Theory! Tea Party Pres: Chief Justice Roberts was blackmailed!

[SiriusDawg]

Tea Party Nation president Judson Phillips sent members an email this morning entitled: ‘Was Chief Justice John Roberts Blackmailed To Support ObamaCare?’ Obviously, we had to check this out and behold it links to a tea party message board post about how Chief Justice Roberts changed his decision on the health care reform law after he was “blackmailed” by President Obama as part of an illegal adoption and child trafficking scheme.

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It is now quite evident that the two Children were from Ireland. Even wikipedia references these adoptions at the time of Roberts' confirmation, and indicates that the children were of Irish birth.

However Irish law 1) prohibits the adoption of Children to non-residents, and 2) also does not permit private adoptions, but rather has all adoptions go through a public agency.


Evidently Roberts arranged for this adoption through some sort of trafficking agency, that got the children out of Ireland and into that Latin American country, from which they were adopted, thereby circumventing two Irish laws -- entirely illegal, but perhaps quasi-legitimized by the birth mothers (two) transporting the children out of Ireland.


Undoubtedly Roberts and his wife spent a great deal of money for this illegal process, circumventing Irish laws and arranging for the transit of two Irish children from separate birth-mothers to a foreign nation. Come 2012, those two children have been with the Roberts' for roughly 10 years, since they were adopted as "infants".


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Roberts is not deserving of any sort of respect here, and is only the latest example of people in position believing themselves above the law, beyond scrutiny and exempt from repercussion.


It all now makes sense.


The circumstances of these two adoptions explain not only why this would be overlooked by an overall sympathetic media, but also why a sitting Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court would not want this information to become public fodder well into his tenure. Its release and public discussion would discredit Roberts as an impartial judge of the law, and undoubtedly lead to his impeachment.


This also explains why Roberts would have a means to be blackmailed, and why that leverage would still exist even after the institution of ObamaCare.


... And it has led to flipping the swing-vote on ObamaCare, which fundamentally changed the relationship between citizen and government, making us de facto property of the state, with our relative worth in care and maintenance able to be determined by the government. Essentially it was a coup without firing a shot, much less needing even an Amendment to the Constitution.


And it is consistent with Obama's Chicago-style politics, that has previously involved opening other sealed records in order to win election.

[MatthewT]

this would be an impeachable offense

[Bosch76]

this would be an impeachable offense

Sure would.

And if My grandma had nuts she'd fuck you in the ass.

[mattyfishrip197]

Sure would.

And if My grandma had nuts she'd fuck you in the ass.

lol

[MatthewT]

why do you post here? srs

[Bosch76]

why do you post here? srs

I already said, because I need to counter the blatant falsehoods that get repeated by you.

You post here and never back up anything you say with facts. Still waiting for the not non-immigration numbers, but immigration numbers. How about a clip of Obama saying he'd like to be a dictator rather than the one you posted in which he says I am follow our countries separation of powers?

Why post in a politics debate forum if all you do if throw shit on the wall and then run away?

[MatthewT]

how can you watch a video called "holy fucking shit obama said he wished he could be a dictator! serious!" and come away with some other conclusion???

[Bosch76]

how can you watch a video called "holy fucking shit obama said he wished he could be a dictator! serious!" and come away with some other conclusion???

Have you ever been tested for cognitive learning disabilities?

I know in your Jesus Loves me world, the title of a youtube video is all the proof your small mind needs, but if you took the time to watch the video, which you obviously didn't, because you have no use of facts, Obama said nothing of the sort, IN FACT HE SAID THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

I'm close to putting you on ignore, I mean you fucking post the titles of video on youtube as primary source facts????

Holy shit we have passed through the looking glass.

[RiotGrip]

One thing that is rarely discussed about justice Roberts and his healthcare decision. The man has a seizure disorder that he acquired in adulthood. He had his first seizure while chief justice(pretty sure anyway), lucky for him he had some of the best health insurance on the planet--Federal blue cross. If he didn't have any insurance and did not get immediate treatment after his seizure, he could have been a vegetable unable to fulfill his duty. He is now treated and can still function in the highest judicial position in the country. Maybe just maybe he believes everyone should be insured even if the pesky govt. is the one mandating it.

[Bosch76]

One thing that is rarely discussed about justice Roberts and his healthcare decision. The man has a seizure disorder that he acquired in adulthood. He had his first seizure while chief justice(pretty sure anyway), lucky for him he had some of the best health insurance on the planet--Federal blue cross. If he didn't have any insurance and did not get immediate treatment after his seizure, he could have been a vegetable unable to fulfill his duty. He is now treated and can still function in the highest judicial position in the country. Maybe just maybe he believes everyone should be insured even if the pesky govt. is the one mandating it.

Nope. He does however believe the gov't has the Constitutional right to tax you if you do not buy insurance.

[MatthewT]

anything. he ruled the government has the right to tax you if you refuse to buy anything they tell you to buy.

that is not a conservative, originalist position, like, at all. and there's ample evidence that Roberts changed his position from when the court met and swapped briefs, and the final brief/vote

roberts betrayed the conservative movement/originalist justices, and he did so at the last minute. whether he did so for personal reasons, political reasons, or was coerced into doing so is apparently not yet known.

the betrayal was. i posted it. in this forum. you know, because it was so obvious that anyone but bosch76 could see it.

[mattyfishrip197]

anything. he ruled the government has the right to tax you if you refuse to buy anything they tell you to buy.

that is not a conservative, originalist position, like, at all. and there's ample evidence that Roberts changed his position from when the court met and swapped briefs, and the final brief/vote

roberts betrayed the conservative movement/originalist justices, and he did so at the last minute. whether he did so for personal reasons, political reasons, or was coerced into doing so is apparently not yet known.

the betrayal was. i posted it. in this forum. you know, because it was so obvious that anyone but bosch76 could see it.

[RiotGrip]

anything. he ruled the government has the right to tax you if you refuse to buy anything they tell you to buy.

that is not a conservative, originalist position, like, at all. and there's ample evidence that Roberts changed his position from when the court met and swapped briefs, and the final brief/vote

roberts betrayed the conservative movement/originalist justices, and he did so at the last minute. whether he did so for personal reasons, political reasons, or was coerced into doing so is apparently not yet known.

the betrayal was. i posted it. in this forum. you know, because it was so obvious that anyone but bosch76 could see it.

Please bump the thread you posted this "evidence" in. Also, I hate to break it to you the concept of the individual mandate and personal tax for not buying healthcare was a conservative idea--back when republicans actually came up with a solution instead of "universal healthcare" or a single payor system. Once again you heard bullshit on talk radio and believed it to be true. The heritage foundation supported a nearly identical plan to obamacare in the 90's. Sorry buddy, Obamacare is a really a republican idea that got passed by a democrat.

[MatthewT]

Please bump the thread you posted this "evidence" in. Also, I hate to break it to you the concept of the individual mandate and personal tax for not buying healthcare was a conservative idea--back when republicans actually came up with a solution instead of "universal healthcare" or a single payor system. Once again you heard bullshit on talk radio and believed it to be true. The heritage foundation supported a nearly identical plan to obamacare in the 90's. Sorry buddy, Obamacare is a really a republican idea that got passed by a democrat.

you have to read the briefs, and you have to read between the lines. the 4 conservative judges had to change their briefs at the last minute to reflect that they were now in the minority; roberts had to stand alone on his "penalties are just taxes" stance.

it's a little more in-depth than posting a video of obama saying he wishes he could just act on his own, and bypass congress, without actually using the word "dictator"

but you keep trying, and one day you'll be right up there with bosch76

[MatthewT]

Chief Justice John Roberts initially sided with the Supreme Court’s four conservative justices to strike down the heart of President Obama’s health care reform law, the Affordable Care Act, but later changed his position and formed an alliance with liberals to uphold the bulk of the law, according to two sources with specific knowledge of the deliberations.

Roberts then withstood a month-long, desperate campaign to bring him back to his original position, the sources said. Ironically, Justice Anthony Kennedy – believed by many conservatives to be the justice most likely to defect and vote for the law – led the effort to try to bring Roberts back to the fold . . .

In the court’s private conference immediately after the arguments, he was aligned with the four conservatives to strike down the mandate . . . Over the next six weeks, as Roberts began to craft the decision striking down the mandate, the external pressure began to grow. Roberts almost certainly was aware of it.

Roberts pays attention to media coverage. As chief justice, he is keenly aware of his leadership role on the court, and he also is sensitive to how the court is perceived by the public.

There were countless news articles in May warning of damage to the court – and to Roberts’ reputation – if the court were to strike down the mandate. Leading politicians, including the president himself, had expressed confidence the mandate would be upheld.

Some even suggested that if Roberts struck down the mandate, it would prove he had been deceitful during his confirmation hearings, when he explained a philosophy of judicial restraint.

It was around this time that it also became clear to the conservative justices that Roberts was, as one put it, “wobbly,” the sources said.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/201...urned-roberts/

[MatthewT]

Did John Roberts switch his vote?

Updated: The dissents suggest the court was set to overturn Obamacare -- until Roberts suddenly changed his vote

http://www.salon.com/2012/06/28/did_...itch_his_vote/

[MatthewT]

would anyone put it past the obama machine to blackmail the SCOTUS?

[Bosch76]

would anyone put it past the obama machine to blackmail the SCOTUS?

Only people with cognitive learning disabilities which result in a lack of rational reasoning skills leading to beliefs in all kinds of stupid bullshit.

[MatthewT]

Only people with cognitive learning disabilities which result in a lack of rational reasoning skills leading to beliefs in all kinds of stupid bullshit.

thought i was on ignore dipshit

[MatthewT]

Forbes ran an article about the 11th hour switch, and Scalia's reference to the dissent as overturning obamacare, but the site keeps crashing