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    DHS can seize your electronics within 100miles of US border, says DHS

    This sounded so insane that I couldn’t actually believe it:

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...rder-seizures/

    The Department of Homeland Security’s civil rights watchdog has concluded that travelers along the nation’s borders may have their electronics seized and the contents of those devices examined for any reason whatsoever — all in the name of national security.

    The DHS, which secures the nation’s border, in 2009 announced that it would conduct a “Civil Liberties Impact Assessment” of its suspicionless search-and-seizure policy pertaining to electronic devices “within 120 days.” More than three years later, the DHS office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties published a two-page executive summary of its findings.

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    According to legal precedent, the Fourth Amendment — the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures — does not apply along the border. By the way, the government contends the Fourth-Amendment-Free Zone stretches 100 miles inland from the nation’s actual border.

    So... you don't have to be really crossing the border for DHS to just take your electronic devices. You just have to be 100 miles from the border and they can just seize your shit... even if you're at your own home.

    Insane? Well, I did some searching and it appears to be true:



    Are You Living in a Constitution Free Zone?

    Using data provided by the U.S. Census Bureau, the ACLU has determined that nearly 2/3 of the entire US population (197.4 million people) live within 100 miles of the US land and coastal borders.

    The government is assuming extraordinary powers to stop and search individuals within this zone. This is not just about the border: This " Constitution-Free Zone" includes most of the nation's largest metropolitan areas.
    http://www.aclu.org/national-securit...tion-free-zone

    Land of the "free"....
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    They can seize my electronic device from my cold dead hands

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    That's just FFFFed Up!
    The President George W. Bush administration first announced the suspicionless, electronics search rules in 2008. The President Barack Obama administration followed up with virtually the same rules a year later. Between 2008 and 2010, 6,500 persons had their electronic devices searched along the U.S. border, according to DHS data.
    According to legal precedent, the Fourth Amendment — the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures — does not apply along the border. By the way, the government contends the Fourth-Amendment-Free Zone stretches 100 miles inland from the nation’s actual border.
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    if people didn't specifically put their electronic equipment used for criminal activities within 100 miles of the US borders expressly for the purpose of supporting anti-American activities within the US borders, this wouldn't be necessary.
    ok, who writes "goo goo at a at a, fukin jew heeb"?
    "fuckyoubigot i dont like you're sig" "repeated annoying comments"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patron View Post
    They can seize my electronic device from my cold dead hands
    they probably will.
    ok, who writes "goo goo at a at a, fukin jew heeb"?
    "fuckyoubigot i dont like you're sig" "repeated annoying comments"

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    They can have my MILF porn when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.

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    So is it as the "crow flies" measurement or is it Driving distance
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    Kinda reminds me of this little recent gem..

    http://torrentfreak.com/fbi-employee...-shows-130209/

    Feb 9, 2013

    "BitTorrent is used by millions of people every day, even in places where you wouldn't really expect. New data reveals that employees at the FBI’s Criminal Justice Information Services Division are sharing movies and TV-shows with the rest of the world."
    Crazy country..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyonenow View Post
    So is it as the "crow flies" measurement or is it Driving distance
    probably whichever works best for them at the time
    ok, who writes "goo goo at a at a, fukin jew heeb"?
    "fuckyoubigot i dont like you're sig" "repeated annoying comments"

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    Quote Originally Posted by newcastlefan View Post
    they probably will.
    But the joke would be on them because I own a Zune

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    But the joke would be on them because I own a Zune
    Wow.. Thats like owning a steam-powered miner's lamp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotMyBro View Post
    This sounded so insane that I couldn’t actually believe it:

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...rder-seizures/



    So... you don't have to be really crossing the border for DHS to just take your electronic devices. You just have to be 100 miles from the border and they can just seize your shit... even if you're at your own home.

    Insane? Well, I did some searching and it appears to be true:





    http://www.aclu.org/national-securit...tion-free-zone

    Land of the "free"....
    See what happens when the legislative branch rolls over and plays dead? The 4th Amendment is basically worthless.

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    So...BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING
































    YOU JERK OFF.
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    So basically where most of Americans live

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    So basically where most of Americans live
    Only 2/3rds of Americans. No big deal.
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    It's been my understanding for years that The Border Patrol (pre DHS) is/was considered to be an international agency and therefore exempt from the Constitution.

    Local law enforcement within 100 miles of the border is still bound by the Constitution.

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    You left out the part where this was George W's idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horff View Post
    You left out the part where this was George W's idea
    YOU'RE the reason why this country is totally fucked. The guy posted an article from Wired and you feel compelled to remind us that, somehow, this is Bush's fault.

    Trust me, neither party gives a single fuck about you. Or me. Stop trying to diminish the ownership of fucked up shit that's going on RIGHT NOW!
    My name is Cheryl and I'm your daughter.

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    CP is absolutely right. This is not a left-right issue. Both parties are equally guilty. It's basically plutocracy vs the people.


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    Yeah, it's over for our country, but if anything we're Calgilula era Rome. Shit's bad and everyone knows it, but it wont really hit the fan until after we're dead. Unless you're a bilionare or famous, you can't really do much about it, so my take is that you're better off just enjoying the time you have while everything falls apart.

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