Obama divorce, birth issues, Clintons, Muslim, Kennedys & jeolousy

[Bosch76]

i guess huffpo doesn't keep you up to date on the latest b.s. being spread. you don't care about the truth you just want to keep sucking obama's cock.
you prove love really is blind.

Do you have a point of issue? No. Asshole.

[Bosch76]

someone believes their lib media masters
how quaint

Man your fucking annoying.

[stripes]

So when our embassy was attacked in Packy land FOUR time during Bush's presidency there was adequate protection?

What is your specific issue and how was it not dealt with in the report that was issued?

you're arguing against yourself dummy. the point you missed in your defense of this clownshoe admin is they were not prepared to protect this foreign hotspot installation...of course its a target in that shithole armpit, why weren't we prepared to keep our staff alive & safe especially on 9/11 anniversary. ambassador killed & drug out of the building like a dead rat & the current shithead admin offers nothing but duck & cover their own ass, deflections & excuses.....hopey changy is gubmint as usual. you keep sucking your boys cawk tho..wise up, you're everything thats wrong with the system. you are an enabler not holding your hero "dad" accountable....you kinda real stoopud

go ahead give me something that was blown up & attacked under the last admin...jeezass, my sanity tells me to avoid party idiots like you.

[JDs tees]

hahahaha. That's right, first Fox News says he personally ordered them to stand down. Now that that is proven as complete bullshit they attack him for NOT being involved enough.

Keep on eating up the bullshit friends and you will continue to be marginalized.

It's embarrassing how little fox has covered the Benghazi testimony because it destroys their bullshit. It was Benghazi for weeks every day and now when the secdef testifys they focus more on his comments on the budget cuts than his answers on Libya. Yellow journalism at its finest.

[Bosch76]

you're arguing against yourself dummy. the point you missed in your defense of this clownshoe admin is they were not prepared to protect this foreign hotspot installation...of course its a target in that shithole armpit, why weren't we prepared to keep our staff alive & safe especially on 9/11 anniversary. ambassador killed & drug out of the building like a dead rat & the current shithead admin offers nothing but duck & cover their own ass, deflections & excuses.....hopey changy is gubmint as usual. you keep sucking your boys cawk tho..wise up, you're everything thats wrong with the system. you are an enabler not holding your hero "dad" accountable....you kinda real stoopud

go ahead give me something that was blown up & attacked under the last admin...jeezass, my sanity tells me to avoid party idiots like you.

read the independent report. It explains quite clearly what went wrong and how that has been fixed.

Now that you mention party idiots.

[stripes]

your admin that can do no wrong, failed miserably in protecting this known shitstain hotspot & you still feel compelled to dig deep & deflect away any responsibility of a dead ambassador left to twist in the wind....no heads rolled, nuttin but hide & seek answers & deflection until well after election because it didnt suit hopey changys rhetoric of bushys enemies are now best buds.
gubmint as usual for hopey changy, nobody held accountable.

how about we fucked up, & i ordered a full standdown & security inspection of all known hotspot US installations & the full force of our overspent defense/intelligence dollars will be focused on the terrorists involved & brought to justice....but we got a parade of people who didnt know shit, made up stories deflection, wear down the country with loads of bs & get past the election, still drag our gubmint feet, & it will all go away....no sense of urgency, culpability or justice, oh yeah, but the buck stops here cuz he said so, to make his sychophants happy... keep defending but i wont vote again until we get a real stand up politico & i dont see any on the horizon. this divisive hopey changy idiot is really a jackass. i cant keep arguing with a party idiot so you win, i concede that hopey changy is the best gosh darn "dad" to ever set foot in washington...

[MatthewT]

If you have a specific point, then spit it out, otherwise shut the fuck up. We already dealt with Benghazi and how all of you right wing assholes were 100% wrong and full of shit.

really? what happened?

did you even understand Panetta's testimony?

[MatthewT]

I remember, Obama was watching live feeds from the drones and ordered the CIA to stand down. That's what happened right?

the first was the lie they floated; the second is a lie you floated

the CIA asked for permission to engage 3 times and were turned down 3 times and said fuck it and Rambo'd it anyways

those two heroes deserve better than President Present.

[SiriusDawg]

It's embarrassing how little fox has covered the Benghazi testimony because it destroys their bullshit. It was Benghazi for weeks every day and now when the secdef testifys they focus more on his comments on the budget cuts than his answers on Libya. Yellow journalism at its finest.

Fox doesn't want to actually cover it because doing so would pretty much destroy any and all of the bullshit rumors that they float out there for their viewers to eat up.

Fighting against the Benghazi people is like fighting against tax protesters who are universally too stupid to actually read and understand the laws

[Bosch76]

the CIA asked for permission to engage 3 times and were turned down 3 times and said fuck it and Rambo'd it anyways

Why do you always post lies?

[SiriusDawg]

Why do you always post lies?

Well, what else would he post then?

I have begged him to back up just about everything he posts and I never, ever get any sort of actual answer.

At least, "i invented" posts links some of the time....hence his "fake republican" act becomes more obvious

[MatthewT]

I remember, Obama was watching live feeds from the drones and ordered the CIA to stand down. That's what happened right?

no, they had life feeds; they had real time info; they knew on 9/11 that it was a terrorist attack; no forces were mobilized; the CIA was told to stand down 3 times and said fuck it and rescued Americans anyways.

don't you care?

[MatthewT]

Why do you always post lies?

the two dead former SEALS, American heroes, died, defying orders to stand down, and you say it's all a lie

you're beyond pitiful, you puny little person

[Bosch76]

the two dead former SEALS, American heroes, died, defying orders to stand down, and you say it's all a lie

you're beyond pitiful, you puny little person

Please post the proof for this.

if you don't you're a disgusting piece of shit who uses dead marines to lie.

[MatthewT]

Please post the proof for this.

if you don't you're a disgusting piece of shit who uses dead marines to lie.

keep thinking you know something

• The aftermath of one of these secret raids into Libya would have grave consequences for all of them, including former Navy SEALs Ty Woods and Glen Doherty. SOFREP believes the Benghazi attack on 9/11/12 was blowback from the late-summer JSOC operations that were threatening the Al Qaeda-aligned militant groups (including Ansar Al-Sharia) in Libya and North Africa, now a leading base of operations for Islamic extremism.
  

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[MatthewT]

and you suck ass


Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."

Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2KdA15TYp

[MatthewT]

you're just a useful idiot, dude

[MatthewT]

inb4 Faux News

[Bosch76]

and you suck ass


Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."

Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2KdA15TYp

hahahaha. You fucking lemming, this has been proven to be 100% horseshit. IN THE LAST THREAD IDIOT.

“We can say with confidence that the Agency reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during that terrible evening in Benghazi. Moreover, no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. In fact, it is important to remember how many lives were saved by courageous Americans who put their own safety at risk that night—and that some of those selfless Americans gave their lives in the effort to rescue their comrades.”

The blanket statement is in response to a range of allegations brought up by Fox News's national security correspondent Jennifer Griffin. Among the allegations, Griffin said "sources who were on the ground in Benghazi" said CIA operatives about a mile away from Amb. Stevens' compound were told twice to "stand down" after hearing gunshots during the night of the assault. (The gunshots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m.) Additionally, Griffin's report says that former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods disobeyed orders to "stand down" and rushed to the U.S. compound housing Amb. Stevens alongside at least two other personnel. After receiving fire from militants near the compound, the team reportedly evacuated everyone they could find and returned to the CIA annex to call for more backup. "At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied," reported Griffin. There are a number of details in Griffin's story that will likely raise more questions, such as an extended account of a security officer manning a "heavy machine gun" on the roof of the CIA annex who couldn't receive assistance from higher ups. For now, the CIA isn't saying no one was ever prevented from assisting the U.S. compound but it is vowing that the agency itself never played a role in denying those requests.

[Bosch76]

Issue No. 1: “Stand down”
Fox reported: The CIA chain of command told “CIA operators twice to ‘stand down’ rather than help the ambassador’s team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.” The “ambassador’s team” was stationed about a mile from the “CIA operators,” who were at an annex.
The timeline reports:

--Around 9:40pm (local) the first call comes in to the Annex that the Mission is coming under attack.

--Fewer than 25 minutes later, a security team left the Annex for the Mission.

--Over the next 25 minutes, team members approach the compound, attempt to secure heavy weapons, and make their way onto the compound itself in the face of enemy fire.

Upshot: Fox reported that security contractor Tyrone Woods and others “ignored” the alleged orders to “stand down” and rushed from the annex to the compound (mission). Woods would later die trying to defend against the attackers.
Here’s a key portion of the timeline: “There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support.” Could the alleged “stand down” orders have been mere directives to wait until proper security preparations had been completed? Maybe.
In a fresh piece on this situation, Ignatius addresses whatever tension may have arisen over the time lapse between the call to the annex and the departure of the security team:

The senior intelligence official said that he doesn’t know whether Woods or any of the other team members agitated to go sooner but added that he wouldn’t be surprised. “I want them to have a sense of urgency,” he said.

Issue No. 2: Military Support
Fox reported:

An urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command.

However, the Fox report acknowledges that security reinforcements from Tripoli arrived in Benghazi to help out. That said, it alleges that more could have been done:

The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

The timeline reports:
At around 1 a.m., or 3 1/2 hours after the first call, “a team of additional security personnel lands at the Benghazi airport, negotiates for transport into town, and upon learning the Ambassador was missing and that the situation at the Annex had calmed, focused on locating the Ambassador, and trying to secure information on the security situation at the hospital.” That team, explains the timeline, later went to the annex to assist in the evacuation; it arrived there “just before the mortar rounds begin to hit the Annex. The two security officers were killed when they took direct mortar fire as they engaged the enemy. That attack lasted only 11 minutes then also dissipated.”
The timeline addresses the question of military assistance: “The US military’s support was essential and much appreciated – it provided [drone support], tactical support sent to the scene from Tripoli, and MEDEVAC.”
Two story lines
This Benghazi story is a beast. It features, all at once, a painstaking level of detail, confusion and ambiguity. There’s multiple-agency mayhem, with the State Department, the CIA, branches of the armed forces, security contractors and so on. There’s a U.S. diplomatic presence with a mission and an annex, across which the hostilities are extended. On the other side are Libyan elements that are friendly to the United States and Libyan elements that, quite clearly, are not.
So it’s easy to get lost in the details of who did what when. To step back from the nitty-gritty, though, is to see two contrasting pictures. The Fox News report paints the CIA as a cautious and incompetent organization that hesitated and withdrew when U.S. citizens and assets were under fire. Officialdom depicts the effort as an all-out scramble to deliver as much help as quickly as possible.
As reported in this series yesterday, the mainstream media have largely declined to follow Fox’s reporting, leaving it on something of a limb. A reckoning is coming. Stay tuned to this series.