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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernListen View Post
    He paid $60K for a six figure job. I doubt they accept "self-taught" pilots. Meanwhile, I have a relative who paid $80,000 for a degree in Poetry. He waits tables.
    If he was smart, he'd write songs.

    Look at how successful Kara DioGuardi. She's watchin' the money pile up.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernListen View Post
    The Geneva Convention applies only to uniformed military personnel of signatory nations.
    Yeah, but the act of rendition (extraordinary) is where they (we) violate due process.

    Quote Originally Posted by wikipedia.org
    Human rights groups charge that extraordinary rendition is a violation of Article 3[5] of the United Nations Convention Against Torture (UNCAT), because suspects are taken to countries where torture during interrogation remains common,[6] thus circumventing the protections the captives would enjoy in the United States or other nations who abide by the terms of UNCAT. Its legality remains highly controversial, as the United States outlaws the use of torture, and the U.S. Constitution guarantees due process. Rendered suspects are denied due process because they are arrested without charges, deprived of legal counsel, and illegally transferred to a third world country with the intent and purpose of facilitating torture and other interrogation measures which would be illegal in the USA.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by harlock View Post
    republicans and democrats work for the same people
    Exactly.. So stop apologizing for any of them. Start criticizing all of them. Don't accept their lame "but it was the other guys falt that we didn't get anything done" excuses.

    Our last two presidents have been groomed for nothing but to hold high office. They've failed at everything they've ever done. If that doesn't scare you, consider that Chelsea Clinton is currently being groomed, as is Marco Rubio...
    The above is strictly my humble opinion.

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    One shitty part of this is that Obama was a liberal constitutional lawyer and professor. You could not have picked a better candidate to uphold the protections of the constitution. Yet even this person, when put in the role of president, cannot restrain himself from overstepping his bounds. We are basically at the point of having a "just trust me" government set up.

    Imagine when we get someone in the office with less scruples.

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by jokeland View Post
    Imagine when we get someone in the office with less scruples.
    When?!

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