Bottom Line: Is Howard Stern a "good" person?

**isabella** · 02-04-2013, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by shani3

Define "good person". Does a good person throw his friends under the bus, ambush them during interviews, or enable their drug-addicted and/or alcoholic "bros" because it's "good for the air"? Does a good person pass over a friend of two decades for a wedding invite, in favor of bigger celebrities (some of them former 'enemies') just because the bigger celebs would look better in his trophy wife's wedding album? Would a good person snub the local wedding of a long-time underling, yet be perfectly willing to fly across the country to rub elbows with A-list guests at the wedding of a big Hollywood agent? Would a good person not support a faithful longtime worker at the funeral of his father, but yet make sure to be seen attending the wake of a Hollywood actress he barely knew?

I was beginning to think that perhaps we were being too hard on Howard.

Then I read your comment! Excellent summation of howard as a not so nice person.

**isabella** · 02-04-2013, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by username

Jews are swell.

Oh, c'mon user.....why does it always boil down to "the Jews" with you......not all of us are terrible people.
In fact, I bet you'd really like me if you met me.

**newcastlefan** · 02-04-2013, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by isabella

Oh, c'mon user.....why does it always boil down to "the Jews" with you......not all of us are terrible people.
In fact, I bet you'd really like me if you met me.

i don't think he would like you if he knew you are a jew when he met you.

**isabella** · 02-04-2013, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by newcastlefan

i don't think he would like you if he knew you are a jew when he met you.

maybe you're right...but my charm, intelligence, and beauty would be too overwhelming.

**newcastlefan** · 02-04-2013, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by rilagent

Well I kind of subscribe to that school too but I don't think that school is teaching lessons to Howard. How do the mentally retarded Gary, Wendy and Hi Pitch fit in? Is it their own damn retarded fault they don't demand more money? How does the bullying "not a team player" by the inner circle fit in?

But we both agree every damn one of them should walk away with what's left of their dignity and leave your pal Howard clutching his nuts.

Nobody is under any onus to pay anymore than they have to. If someone feels they are not being paid enough they are supposed to negotiate and walk away if they don't get what they want. that's just the way the world works. anything else is welfare. their intelligence level is immaterial: if they believe they are not being treated right they have the responsibility of leaving. if someone else believes they are being taken advantage of, then call social welfare and file a complaint.

if they don;t walk away, they are teaching Howard that what he is doing is correct.

**newcastlefan** · 02-04-2013, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by isabella

maybe you're right...but my charm, intelligence, and beauty would be too overwhelming.

i don't think he can see beyond his prejudices.

I always wonder how he rationalized that Jesus is a jew.

**Mlaw** · 02-04-2013, 06:13 PM

He's had a 30+ year career and not one person of any stature with whom he has worked or has had a personal relationship with has ever written a book, sat down for an extended interview or revealed anything nasty about him. Given the industry and the desire to make a buck, I find this pretty remarkable

**tired** · 02-04-2013, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Mlaw

He's had a 30+ year career and not one person of any stature with whom he has worked or has had a personal relationship with has ever written a book, sat down for an extended interview or revealed anything nasty about him. Given the industry and the desire to make a buck, I find this pretty remarkable

howard is not as naive and well meaning as you think he is. it is well known that howard makes every employee sign confidentiality agreements that are iron clad. and for a man that hates lawyers it is also well known that if you mess with howard he has an army of lawyers ready to make your life miserable $$$. for gods sake they are not allowed to gaze at him after the fucking show!! and you want, what?

**Mlaw** · 02-04-2013, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by tired

howard is not as naive and well meaning as you think he is. it is well known that howard makes every employee sign confidentiality agreements that are iron clad. and for a man that hates lawyers it is also well known that if you mess with howard he has an army of lawyers ready to make your life miserable $$$. for gods sake they are not allowed to gaze at him after the fucking show!! and you want, what?

it's well known? That's never been confirmed by anyone affiliated with the show.

And what about his personal relationships, the women he's fucked, his daughters, his relatives? Nearly every celebrity has had a one person come out fo the wood work with a nasty story.

Jesus, there has never even been a bell boy, waiter, doorman or cab driver in 30+ years say a bad word. They don't sign nondisclosure agreements

**Goo For You** · 02-04-2013, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by newcastlefan

i subscribe to the: if you're not being paid what you think you're worth and you don't go someplace else, then it's your own damn fault and not the guy who is paying you, school.

Nobody is entitled to anything; only total assholes think you are entitled to be paid what you think you are worth. You are entitled to be paid what the person paying you thinks your work is worth.. Howard is payin JD what he thinks he is worth to Howard. If JD disagrees and stays, Howard is not a bad guy: JD is retarded.

This thread may benefit from the following observation:

Ayn Rand's seemingly consistent and innocuous philosophy not only ended up destroying her own inner circle, but has to date ruined the lives of countless innocent people (family members and friends of Objectivists). Some of the stories are really brutal... It is arguably an evil philosophy.

But all I really want to say is, a little sympathy (for JD)(and a little hate for the Pelican) won't kill ya.

**isabella** · 02-04-2013, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mlaw

He's had a 30+ year career and not one person of any stature with whom he has worked or has had a personal relationship with has ever written a book, sat down for an extended interview or revealed anything nasty about him. Given the industry and the desire to make a buck, I find this pretty remarkable

.......and conversely, no one has ever mentioned how really nice he is either.