a question for the old people here

[FlaFlaFlunkie]

Why do you hate Obama?

Probably because someone told him to.

[HeinousMark]

You should watch that Oliver Stone Untold History doc he's been running on Showtime covering the Carter & Reagan years.

Nothing was ever Jimmy Carter's fault, he was amazing and mislead by his advisers or something...

I have not seen the show you mentioned, but I have always believed that Carter had the most moral character of any President during my lifetime. And the man was not stupid, despite the caricature of a big-smilin' hayseed. The problem was he was not a well-connected Washington insider, he was naive about just how corrupt and dirty you have to be to get things done in DC, and worst of all, he refused to sacrifice his own ethics for the sake of wielding more power. It was like Mr. Smith Goes To Washington without the warm fuzzies and happy ending...

[August West]

I remember toilet paper with tha Ayatollah Khomeini's face on it...

I remember urinal screens with Jane Fonda's face on it

[Lemmy]

I have not seen the show you mentioned, but I have always believed that Carter had the most moral character of any President during my lifetime. And the man was not stupid, despite the caricature of a big-smilin' hayseed. The problem was he was not a well-connected Washington insider, he was naive about just how corrupt and dirty you have to be to get things done in DC, and worst of all, he refused to sacrifice his own ethics for the sake of wielding more power. It was like Mr. Smith Goes To Washington without the warm fuzzies and happy ending...

Reps!

[newcastlefan]

You should watch that Oliver Stone Untold History doc he's been running on Showtime covering the Carter & Reagan years.

Nothing was ever Jimmy Carter's fault, he was amazing and mislead by his advisers or something...

Carter was the best ex-president we ever had. i think that, prior to Carter, the most ineffectual president was Millard Filmore. Nobody could believe Carter ran a successful company because he never made a decision. Not everyone has what it takes to lead; Carter had everything necessary to not lead.

I think the country's pervasive attitude or personality flows top down from the white house; if so, Carter made the country impotent, castrated. Reagan gave us back our testicles. The reason I think i recognize this is because I felt similarly in NYC when David Dinkins was mayor: the office requires a flamboyant bastard. No nice guy ever succeeds in the office. Dinkins was our Carter.

[HeinousMark]

Carter was the best ex-president we ever had. i think that, prior to Carter, the most ineffectual president was Millard Filmore. Nobody could believe Carter ran a successful company because he never made a decision. Not everyone has what it takes to lead; Carter had everything necessary to not lead.

I think the country's pervasive attitude or personality flows top down from the white house; if so, Carter made the country impotent, castrated. Reagan gave us back our testicles. The reason I think i recognize this is because I felt similarly in NYC when David Dinkins was mayor: the office requires a flamboyant bastard. No nice guy ever succeeds in the office. Dinkins was our Carter.

Americans tend to favor style over substance. The President from Idiocracy is not as far from reality as I'm comfortable with....

[Chiva]

Pop sounds like a cool dude; does he drink a lot of beer?

He is my hero and that is why he gets a pass when he stares at my wife's tits.

[Gunslinger]

Americans tend to favor style over substance. The President from Idiocracy is not as far from reality as I'm comfortable with....

Um, that's Mister President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho to you cracka

[sstressed]

I have not seen the show you mentioned, but I have always believed that Carter had the most moral character of any President during my lifetime. And the man was not stupid, despite the caricature of a big-smilin' hayseed. The problem was he was not a well-connected Washington insider, he was naive about just how corrupt and dirty you have to be to get things done in DC, and worst of all, he refused to sacrifice his own ethics for the sake of wielding more power. It was like Mr. Smith Goes To Washington without the warm fuzzies and happy ending...

he asked amy about nuclear weapons. she said they were bad.


he was a clown.

[Johnnykstaint]

I have not seen the show you mentioned, but I have always believed that Carter had the most moral character of any President during my lifetime. And the man was not stupid, despite the caricature of a big-smilin' hayseed. The problem was he was not a well-connected Washington insider, he was naive about just how corrupt and dirty you have to be to get things done in DC, and worst of all, he refused to sacrifice his own ethics for the sake of wielding more power. It was like Mr. Smith Goes To Washington without the warm fuzzies and happy ending...

In short, he was probably too smart to be President.

[FlaFlaFlunkie]

I have not seen the show you mentioned, but I have always believed that Carter had the most moral character of any President during my lifetime. And the man was not stupid, despite the caricature of a big-smilin' hayseed. The problem was he was not a well-connected Washington insider, he was naive about just how corrupt and dirty you have to be to get things done in DC, and worst of all, he refused to sacrifice his own ethics for the sake of wielding more power. It was like Mr. Smith Goes To Washington without the warm fuzzies and happy ending...

That's exactly it. He was a Washington outsider and couldn't get anything through Congress; even legislation upon which he won his election. So, the American people elected him, based on his mandate and the changes he wanted to bring to Washington, in light of the Nixon debacle (which Ford inherited and for which the American people still held against Ford & his party) and he was a lame duck President.

Sad. I don't blame him for the Iran-hostage crisis; he at least attempted a rescue, but it failed.

And he's done wonderful things with habitat for humanity. He's a good guy.

[HeinousMark]

That's exactly it. He was a Washington outsider and couldn't get anything through Congress; even legislation upon which he won his election. So, the American people elected him, based on his mandate and the changes he wanted to bring to Washington, in light of the Nixon debacle (which Ford inherited and for which the American people still held against Ford & his party) and he was a lame duck President.

Sad. I don't blame him for the Iran-hostage crisis; he at least attempted a rescue, but it failed.

And he's done wonderful things with habitat for humanity. He's a good guy.

Yeah, it's almost like someone got all involved in drug and weapons trafficking, got a bunch of weapons illegally, and traded them to the kidnappers...the ENEMY...and said "Oh BTW, don't let the hostages go until 'our mutual friend' gets sworn into office".....

[sfgirl]

It was scary. Nothing like that had ever happened to Americans that I could remember. The failed rescue attempt, then the release after Reagan was elected, it was all pretty confusing at the time.

Shit like that seems so common these days.

Agree. But I guess Carter had it all in place and wanted it to go down before his departure but it didn't happen.

[MatthewT]

that's why i was hoping Rick Perry would be the president; he'd scare the shit out of the iranians

[HeinousMark]

that's why i was hoping Rick Perry would be the president; he'd scare the shit out of the iranians

Perry might be a bigger cocksucker than Dub, if such a thing is possible. Nothing would make me happier than for both those Dumb And Dumber tick-turds to move to Californy so you could be close to them....

[MatthewT]

i heard the word was that Rick Perry was the Texan who George W. tried to play on TV

[Newly OBrien]

The 70's were great everyone had aquariums and above ground pools. I had one of those Mickey Mouse giving the finger to iran license plates on the front of my Gremlin X.

[Stew Nod]

Carter was the best ex-president we ever had. i think that, prior to Carter, the most ineffectual president was Millard Filmore. Nobody could believe Carter ran a successful company because he never made a decision. Not everyone has what it takes to lead; Carter had everything necessary to not lead.

I think the country's pervasive attitude or personality flows top down from the white house; if so, Carter made the country impotent, castrated. Reagan gave us back our testicles. The reason I think i recognize this is because I felt similarly in NYC when David Dinkins was mayor: the office requires a flamboyant bastard. No nice guy ever succeeds in the office. Dinkins was our Carter.

Yup, Carter turned the AC off in the Whitehouse and refused to cooperate with Tip O'niel on the pork spending

Political suicide...In realty he was more conservative than any president since his term....Amazing how they create this myths about each guy...Reagan wasn't conservative at all....He just built deficits...FACT

[newcastlefan]

Yup, Carter turned the AC off in the Whitehouse and refused to cooperate with Tip O'niel on the pork spending

Political suicide...In realty he was more conservative than any president since his term....Amazing how they create this myths about each guy...Reagan wasn't conservative at all....He just built deficits...FACT

The world was in the shitter; the economy was flat; small wars were breaking out and Americans were not safe traveling abroad (which depressed the global economy). Reagan would get on TV and tell everyone just how bad things were and that even so we would get through it, and you started to believe things could get better. It was the first time I ever looked forward to watching the state of the union addresses on TV. Reagan gave the country back it's will to succeed by any means necessary (which I believe separates us from the rest of the world).

[HeinousMark]

The world was in the shitter; the economy was flat; small wars were breaking out and Americans were not safe traveling abroad (which depressed the global economy). Reagan would get on TV and tell everyone just how bad things were and that even so we would get through it, and you started to believe things could get better. It was the first time I ever looked forward to watching the state of the union addresses on TV. Reagan gave the country back it's will to succeed by any means necessary (which I believe separates us from the rest of the world).

Carter wanted to give us icky tasting medicine, Reagan came along with yummy-nummy Magic (Jelly) Beans and told us "Don't you worry about that tumor, just have a cup of Big Ron's Feelgood Snake Oil and you'll be fine!"