The UFC was much better back in the day, when there were only 2 rules...

**fenderbaum** · 01-26-2013, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Jim J Jiblets

Don Frye was a nutcase. Love his early fights, though.

A few of those boys were a couple cards shy of a full deck, but they sure could fight.

**fenderbaum** · 01-26-2013, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by harlock

Helio the father totally called the shots and they listened. Rickson was supposedly the best in the family by far and was Royce's trainer. Royce was chosen because they thought him to be the most likable and level headed. They were trying to make a good impression with the public and not come off as a bunch of savages.

Great point. The Gracie family was very disciplined both in and out of the ring.

**Mr Sinister** · 01-26-2013, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Smell Muhfinger

I remember him coming to the octagon carrying a huge crucifix on his back.

That shit was awesome

**Jim J Jiblets** · 01-26-2013, 09:31 PM

Joe Son got his joesons walloped on before he died. Another crucifixer.

**harlock** · 01-26-2013, 09:32 PM

The great thing about the first one is I don't know anybody that would have picked that skinny dude in the gi to win it.

**fenderbaum** · 01-26-2013, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jim J Jiblets

Joe Son got his joesons walloped on before he died. Another crucifixer.

Ouch, I remember that too, and it went on throughout the fight too, and he took it too.

**deidler** · 01-26-2013, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by fenderbaum

I have theorized that since the other brothers were already established and revered in Brazil, that Royce was the obvious answer, he would get exposure if all worked the way they had hoped, and if it blew up in their face it would not have been one of the marquee names in the Gracie family that would have taken the fall.

I could buy that. None of it matters anyway cause the best Gracie is Kyra!

**deidler** · 01-26-2013, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by harlock

The great thing about the first one is I don't know anybody that would have picked that skinny dude in the gi to win it.

I got the guy with the boxing glove!!!!

**fenderbaum** · 01-26-2013, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by deidler

I could buy that. None of it matters anyway cause the best Gracie is Kyra!

Agreed.

**Chaos** · 01-26-2013, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by deidler

The sumo getting his teeth knocked out?

Not sure. But the dude jumped on his back and hit the sumo in the head forty times and broke both of his hands. A ninja took his place and won the whole thing? A ninja!!!!! UFC is so lame these days

**deidler** · 01-26-2013, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Chaos

Not sure. But the dude jumped on his back and hit the sumo in the head forty times and broke both of his hands. A ninja took his place and won the whole thing? A ninja!!!!! UFC is so lame these days

The only time a ninja won. Let me know when a Shaolin wins.

**BRityow** · 01-26-2013, 09:49 PM

Rickson was the first option, but Rorion ended up picking Royce because he found out that Rickson was teaching private classes behind his back

**Chaos** · 01-26-2013, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by deidler

The only time a ninja won. Let me know when a Shaolin wins.

That would be epic.

**Avery** · 01-26-2013, 09:51 PM

Before a ufc event a few years ago me and my friends rented some of the early ufcs from a video store.

We were all "OMG no rules! Oh yeah it was so awesome then!! lulz"

We couldn't make it through them. They were sooooo boring. There was a fight where gracie and shamrock literally were in the missionary position for 30 minutes. You guys need to rewatch them, they don't live up to how you remember them at all.

**harlock** · 01-26-2013, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by deidler

The only time a ninja won. Let me know when a Shaolin wins.

There was a kung fu guy in the 1st or 2nd one that did pretty good, and beat some bigger opponents. I think he broke his hand and couldn't continue.

**deidler** · 01-26-2013, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by BRityow

Rickson was the first option, but Rorion ended up picking Royce because he found out that Rickson was teaching private classes behind his back

Very interesting.

**redshirt** · 01-26-2013, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Chaos

Not sure. But the dude jumped on his back and hit the sumo in the head forty times and broke both of his hands. A ninja took his place and won the whole thing? A ninja!!!!! UFC is so lame these days

It was cool to see guys who were extremely well versed in like one discipline take on the same so you got a chance to see the clash of styles of Wrestler vs Boxer vs Karate vs Jiu Jitsu vs Judo, etc. Nowadays guys are trained in everything so its all a mixed martial art instead of one style versus another which makes for more skilled competitors I guess, but not as much fun as a sumo versus a ninja

**deidler** · 01-26-2013, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Avery

Before a ufc event a few years ago me and my friends rented some of the early ufcs from a video store.

We were all "OMG no rules! Oh yeah it was so awesome then!! lulz"

We couldn't make it through them. They were sooooo boring. There was a fight where gracie and shamrock literally were in the missionary position for 30 minutes. You guys need to rewatch them, they don't live up to how you remember them at all.

I enjoy grappling so it still holds up for me.

**harlock** · 01-26-2013, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by BRityow

Rickson was the first option, but Rorion ended up picking Royce because he found out that Rickson was teaching private classes behind his back

Never heard that. Rickson trained Royce for the thing. If they thought Royce wasn't gonna be good enough to win, it absolutely would have been Rickson fighting. I believe they all (including Rorion) still deferred to Helio at that time.