The UFC was much better back in the day, when there were only 2 rules...

[Chaos]

They totally bankrolled the first couple. Royce got pretty fucked up a few times too. I think they were bought out after UFC 2

I think ufc 3.

[Jim J Jiblets]

[harlock]

I think ufc 3.

Yeah, I think that's right. Damn I loved those first few.

[Chaos]

The best fight ever was when that 5'10 dude took on that 6'2 sumo wrestler and whupped his ass after getting hit thru the door of the ring.

[deidler]

They totally bankrolled the first couple. Royce got pretty fucked up a few times too. I think they were bought out after UFC 2

A few times? Kimo was vicious.

[fenderbaum]

They totally bankrolled the first couple. Royce got pretty fucked up a few times too. I think they were bought out after UFC 2

I believe that Royce is a competitor, and that at that time his father was running the Gracie empire, so he called the shots. Royce wanted to fight opponents that would challenge him. Dan Severn and Royce had some good fights, and so did Shamrock (Ken), but I am glad that they ended at Gracie / Shamrock 9 or something as it was getting a bit tired.

[fenderbaum]

The best fight ever was when that 5'10 dude took on that 6'2 sumo wrestler and whupped his ass after getting hit thru the door of the ring.

Holy cow I forgot about that one, what a laugh and great fight.

[Smell Muhfinger]

A few times? Kimo was vicious.

I remember him coming to the octagon carrying a huge crucifix on his back.

[deidler]

The sumo getting his teeth knocked out?

[Smell Muhfinger]

I believe that Royce is a competitor, and that at that time his father was running the Gracie empire, so he called the shots. Royce wanted to fight opponents that would challenge him. Dan Severn and Royce had some good fights, and so did Shamrock (Ken), but I am glad that they ended at Gracie / Shamrock 9 or something as it was getting a bit tired.

I'm not familiar with all the conspiracy theories, but you gotta admit Royce fucked some bastards up back then.

[fenderbaum]

I remember meeting Tank Abbott, now that was a crazy albeit cool person.

[Jim J Jiblets]

[fenderbaum]

I'm not familiar with all the conspiracy theories, but you gotta admit Royce fucked some bastards up back then.

Oh no doubt, and as for the conspiracy I am all for it since without it we would not have the UFC today. I have no idea if what they say is true of not, it makes a little sense, but there is no documented evidence that I know of.

[fenderbaum]

That was one of the sickest fights that I have ever seen, amazing the barrage of punches that were given and taken.

[Smell Muhfinger]

Oh no doubt, and as for the conspiracy I am all for it since without it we would not have the UFC today. I have no idea if what they say is true of not, it makes a little sense, but there is no documented evidence that I know of.

I wouldn't be surprised, anytime money is involved you can't count out some underhanded shit going on.

[deidler]

I'm not familiar with all the conspiracy theories, but you gotta admit Royce fucked some bastards up back then.

Not sure what the conspiracies are. Except the fact that I don't think there was any serious Judoka in any of the early tournaments which would have been obviously very familiar with BJJ. Royce was great but it is strange considering he wasn't the top dog of the Gracies. And all these fighters have definitely evolved and added BJJ to their game or they wont have a very long career.

[fenderbaum]

I wouldn't be surprised, anytime money is involved you can't count out some underhanded shit going on.

I have to tell you now I will be looking to see if I can watch the first 3 UFC somewhere on the internet.

[harlock]

A few times? Kimo was vicious.

If Kimo didn't have that pony tail for Royce to grab that first time, could have gone differently. Notice he cut that shit off after that.

The best fight ever was when that 5'10 dude took on that 6'2 sumo wrestler and whupped his ass after getting hit thru the door of the ring.

Was that the dude whose tooth went flying when he was kicked in the face?

I believe that Royce is a competitor, and that at that time his father was running the Gracie empire, so he called the shots. Royce wanted to fight opponents that would challenge him. Dan Severn and Royce had some good fights, and so did Shamrock (Ken), but I am glad that they ended at Gracie / Shamrock 9 or something as it was getting a bit tired.

Helio the father totally called the shots and they listened. Rickson was supposedly the best in the family by far and was Royce's trainer. Royce was chosen because they thought him to be the most likable and level headed. They were trying to make a good impression with the public and not come off as a bunch of savages.

[Jim J Jiblets]

That was one of the sickest fights that I have ever seen, amazing the barrage of punches that were given and taken.

Don Frye was a nutcase. Love his early fights, though.

[fenderbaum]

Not sure what the conspiracies are. Except the fact that I don't think there was any serious Judoka in any of the early tournaments which would have been obviously very familiar with BJJ. Royce was great but it is strange considering he wasn't the top dog of the Gracies. And all these fighters have definitely evolved and added BJJ to their game or they wont have a very long career.

I have theorized that since the other brothers were already established and revered in Brazil, that Royce was the obvious answer, he would get exposure if all worked the way they had hoped, and if it blew up in their face it would not have been one of the marquee names in the Gracie family that would have taken the fall.