Artie rips on Levy over Stickam page views

[NotMyBro]

Levy's stats:



I still think that average Levy show beats average Artie show.

[TelegramSam]

Levy's stats:



I still think that average Levy show beats average Artie show.

NotMyBro, I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, but Dan Fellato ripped apart those stats if you listen to the clip.

[Sharkboy]

Artie is sorely missed. A great radio talent, but sad that he still has such hang-ups bout dogs.

[whatsit]

The two times I participated in the live Levy viewing threads (on here) they were hilarious.

[Dead Air Dave]

Levy sounds like crackhead bob

I feel bad for him since artie has a syndicated show and he is wallowing in nothingness

Maybe levy can join the wack pack?

[TSSTaylor]

http://www.stickam.com/ranking.do

[Time Bandit]

Naz licks toilet seats.

who's naz? and is that public restrooms or ones in his home? I'm confused

[whatsit]

who's naz? and is that public restrooms or ones in his home? I'm confused

he is a super mod and demands respect!

[TelegramSam]

Stickam bullshits those numbers, here is the Alexa report on Stickam:"Stickam has 185,685 daily visits. The problem with Stickam is how many visitors view more than one page per visit. In that case the average number of Pageviews is 185685. This means that each visitor who visit Stickam see approximately 1 page per visit. That is the reason because of you see the "Error" in the "Stickam SEO Full Report"."The entire Stickam site only gets 185,685 hits daily.

[NotMyBro]

http://www.stickam.com/ranking.do

I'd wager some real money that Levy has way more views than Artie.

I haven't listened to what TelegramSam said "Dan Fellato ripped apart those stats" but this Dan guy is probably full of shit. Let's see Artie stats for a comparison. At least Levy's stats are in the open and provided by a legitimate site.

[TelegramSam]

I'd wager some real money that Levy has way more views than Artie.

I haven't listened to what TelegramSam said "Dan Fellato ripped apart those stats" but this Dan guy is probably full of shit. Let's see Artie stats for a comparison. At least Levy's stats are in the open and provided by a legitimate site.

Fellato was Steve Dahl's producer for years, so he does know his stuff when it comes to radio (he's not a fake producer like Booie). Anyway, he checked with the Q rating service that Premiere/DirecTV pays for, and it calculated that Levy gets under 2000 unique hits a day. The service also said that Stickam counts each stream connection as a unique view, so if the same 20,000 view each day, it will count it as 100,000 viewers a week for a weekly show, even though there were only 20,000 unique IP hits. So theoretically, Levy COULD be right in a sense: the same 20,000 could just keep viewing every day until it added up to 1,000,000 even though there were only 20,000 or so unique IPs.

[NotMyBro]

Stickam bullshits those numbers, here is the Alexa report on Stickam:"Stickam has 185,685 daily visits. The problem with Stickam is how many visitors view more than one page per visit. In that case the average number of Pageviews is 185685. This means that each visitor who visit Stickam see approximately 1 page per visit. That is the reason because of you see the "Error" in the "Stickam SEO Full Report"."The entire Stickam site only gets 185,685 hits daily.

Alexa? Give me a break. Alexa is the biggest bullshit ever. None of their stats are even close to real numbers. http://jessefogarty.com/blog/alexa-r...-are-bullshit/

[TSSTaylor]

I'd wager some real money that Levy has way more views than Artie.

I haven't listened to what TelegramSam said "Dan Fellato ripped apart those stats" but this Dan guy is probably full of shit. Let's see Artie stats for a comparison. At least Levy's stats are in the open and provided by a legitimate site.

Dan was ripping apart Bob Levy's site, which is not where people go view his show. And he was using Alexa as a reference. Most web nerds tell me that Alexa is pretty useless as far as getting an accurate sense of traffic. Years ago people would use it a lot more. Including some of the Sirius mgmt to see how big some of the various show's websites were ranked before you could judge by a host's twitter numbers.

[NotMyBro]

Fellato was Steve Dahl's producer for years, so he does know his stuff when it comes to radio (he's not a fake producer like Booie). Anyway, he checked with the Q rating service that Premiere/DirecTV pays for, and it calculated that Levy gets under 2000 unique hits a day. The service also said that Stickam counts each stream connection as a unique view, so if the same 20,000 view each day, it will count it as 100,000 viewers a week for a weekly show, even though there were only 20,000 unique IP hits.

Maybe he can give us Artie's numbers. I'd love to see those.

Anyway, relying on Alexa just shows that the guy is clueless beyond words. Anyone who's done some SEOing for sites or ran a site can tell you that Alexa numbers are witchcraft.

[NotMyBro]

Dan was ripping apart Bob Levy's site, which is not where people go view his show. And he was using Alexa as a reference. Most web nerds tell me that Alexa is pretty useless as far as getting an accurate sense of traffic. Years ago people would use it a lot more. Including some of the Sirius mgmt to see how big some of the various show's websites were ranked before you could judge by a host's twitter numbers.

Absolutely correct. Anyone who's done some Internet marketing and some website analytics on their own site or blog can tell you that Alexa is never in the same ballpark as the real numbers.

Alexa uses their browser toolbar to guesstimate numbers and I'm yet to see someone with that shitty toolbar.

http://paulstamatiou.com/why-you-sho...re-alexa-stats

[TelegramSam]

Maybe he can give us Artie's numbers. I'd love to see those.

Anyway, relying on Alexa just shows that the guy is clueless beyond words. Anyone who's done some SEOing for sites or ran a site can tell you that Alexa numbers are witchcraft.

Well, if you just go off of Stickam, it said that Levy had 23,547 views for his last show and 134,240 for the last week. They don't count that based on IPs, just stream connections. So if we're being generous that means Levy averages maybe 28,000 or so unique viewers per show.

[Big Bird]

I found that segment pretty funny. Artie doing the Godfather line got to me

[NotMyBro]

Well, if you just go off of Stickam, it said that Levy had 23,547 views for his last show and 134,240 for the last week. They don't count that based on IPs, just stream connections. So if we're being generous that means Levy averages maybe 28,000 or so unique viewers per show.

2 years ago I worked for a marketing department of a fairly large company and we spent around $200k/month on various website marketing. The only data that we trusted was from Comscore and from websites that we were buying ad units from. We’d basically take what the site's marketing told us they were getting and we'd take what Comscore is saying and we'd average it out and multiply by the CTR of the ads we tested and knew CTRs for and we'd run it. Our numbers at the end of the month were within 5% of estimated.

The only service worth getting data from is Comscore. They buy the data from ISPs and look at the raw logs and estimate traffic and all other measures like reach etc.

If you look at stickam, http://www.stickam.com/advertise.do you can see what they're saying their site's reach is. Since they're an older site and have a track record I'd wager these numbers are pretty close because they have nothing to gain by lying and pissing off advertisers. What's interesting about this chart is 18-24 percentage... this is the only thing that matters in advertising... young people.

So even if Levy is pulling the numbers you estimated, he's pulling the numbers in a fairly young group. I doubt Artie's pulling the same numbers in this age group.

[TelegramSam]

2 years ago I worked for a marketing department of a fairly large company and we spent around $200k/month on various website marketing. The only data that we trusted was from Comscore and from websites that we were buying ad units from. We’d basically take what the site's marketing told us they were getting and we'd take what Comscore is saying and we'd average it out and multiply by the CTR of the ads we tested and knew CTRs for and we'd run it. Our numbers at the end of the month were within 5% of estimated.

The only service worth getting data from is Comscore. They buy the data from ISPs and look at the raw logs and estimate traffic and all other measures like reach etc.

If you look at stickam, http://www.stickam.com/advertise.do you can see what they're saying their site's reach is. Since they're an older site and have a track record I'd wager these numbers are pretty close because they have nothing to gain by lying and pissing off advertisers. What's interesting about this chart is 18-24 percentage... this is the only thing that matters in advertising... young people.

So even if Levy is pulling the numbers you estimated, he's pulling the numbers in a fairly young group. I doubt Artie's pulling the same numbers in this age group.

Fair enough, but in that case Levy needs to give Artie his ten grand and start selling advertising.

[ShutupMoron]

Well, if you just go off of Stickam, it said that Levy had 23,547 views for his last show and 134,240 for the last week. They don't count that based on IPs, just stream connections. So if we're being generous that means Levy averages maybe 28,000 or so unique viewers per show.

I like Levy but the Stickam numbers are pure BS. Levy has approx. 100-200 live viewers per so so called "show" which is nothing more than a poor quality dopey barking dog clusterfuck of a video chat. The only Stickam numbers that are accurate are the recorded shows for replay which I sometimes listen too. If he gets 15 views on a replay that's a lot.