who's drivin the bus?

[I invented that]

obama says:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama says that a decade of war is now ending and an economic recovery has begun





leon panetta says:

The terrorist attack in Algeria that left three Americans and 34 other hostages dead shows that al Qaeda is “committed to creating terror" no matter where its members are located and that America has "got to fight back," Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Monday.
“I’m glad we were able to get some rescued, but we did lose three Americans,” Panetta told a small group of reporters Monday as he left the inaugural lunch at the Capitol. “That just tells us al Qaeda is committed to creating terror wherever they are, and we’ve got to fight back.”

[Bosch76]

obama says:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama says that a decade of war is now ending and an economic recovery has begun





leon panetta says:

The terrorist attack in Algeria that left three Americans and 34 other hostages dead shows that al Qaeda is “committed to creating terror" no matter where its members are located and that America has "got to fight back," Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Monday.
“I’m glad we were able to get some rescued, but we did lose three Americans,” Panetta told a small group of reporters Monday as he left the inaugural lunch at the Capitol. “That just tells us al Qaeda is committed to creating terror wherever they are, and we’ve got to fight back.”

Are you sure you're not on that short bus?

Let's break this down.

1. War in Afghanistan is ending.
2. Economy is improving.
3. There was a terrorist attack in Algeria.

Hmm. Yes you are 100% right. That is insane!!!!

[I invented that]

Are you sure you're not on that short bus?

Let's break this down.

1. War in Afghanistan is ending.
2. Economy is improving.
3. There was a terrorist attack in Algeria.

Hmm. Yes you are 100% right. That is insane!!!!

economy improving, hmmmmm. please prove, show all work.

the war is just changing to a new arena.

[Bro]

economy improving, hmmmmm. please prove, show all work.

the war is just changing to a new arena.

Wrong.

[MatthewT]

wow, Bud said "Wrong". it must be wrong then.

[I invented that]

Wrong.

[HeinousMark]

economy improving, hmmmmm. please prove, show all work.

the war is just changing to a new arena.

Now that part I agree with. But to where? I am old enough now to understand that we will always be at war with someone, from now on, regardless of who is POTUS or how Capitol Hill is stacked. The only question is, who will we war against? Most likely, some country we have called an ally in the past, and almost certainly armed with our old and obsolete weaponry. Since the Cold War is over, former Soviet proteges are also up for grabs, but I doubt we'll do anything to upset the Chinks, so SE Asia is off limits.

So who is our new enemy du jour....Iran?

[MatthewT]

same axis of evil that was identified sooooo long ago by the last president: Iran, Iraq, and North Korea

[HeinousMark]

Damn, I totally forgot N Korea.....I'll confess I'm very ignorant about their relationship with China, and can only assume it's not hostile (?), so

[shitcunt]

Why are we waiting another year before we surrender in Afghanistan?

[MatthewT]

looking back, it would have been awesome to hit and quit Iraq in a year, just leave them in rubble, after decimating the taliban in afghanistan. the afghans knew when we went over there that we were in revenge kill mode for the terrorists that killed our people. they understood that. it's part of their culture too. but when that was over, why oh why did we stay

the real problem was the painful "oh, we have no problem with islam in general" and "hey, your people would love democracy as much as our people do"

nation building? when does that work out? like, ever?

[HeinousMark]

looking back, it would have been awesome to hit and quit Iraq in a year, just leave them in rubble, after decimating the taliban in afghanistan. the afghans knew when we went over there that we were in revenge kill mode for the terrorists that killed our people. they understood that. it's part of their culture too. but when that was over, why oh why did we stay

the real problem was the painful "oh, we have no problem with islam in general" and "hey, your people would love democracy as much as our people do"

nation building? when does that work out? like, ever?

It would have been much more awesomerer if we'd stayed out of Iraq entirely, since they had 0.0 to do with 9/11, and with Saddam running Iraq, that was one place the Al Quadas et al didn't hang out in. Blowing Iraq to smithereens for no reason at all and then leaving it in rubble would have been the absolute worst thing we could have done...

[MatthewT]

It would have been unnecessary had the first Bush finished the war right; he was too concerned with international opinion, and failed to do the one thing that ends wars:

get the leader humiliated signing a peace treaty



Saddam did nothing but lie to his people for the next nine years, saying that they won the war. Won it. outright. and his people believed him, for the most part, because, well, he was still the leader in iraq, now, wasn't he

[Bosch76]

Saddam did nothing but lie to his people for the next nine years, saying that they won the war. Won it. outright. and his people believed him, for the most part, because, well, he was still the leader in iraq, now, wasn't he

How many of god's children did we kill to make that happen?

Trust me dude, when you go before God, and he asks you why you let that happen, you will burn in hell.

[MatthewT]

How many of god's children did we kill to make that happen?

Trust me dude, when you go before God, and he asks you why you let that happen, you will burn in hell.

have any of your posts added anything to the collective here? like, any of them?

why do you post at all?

[Caster Fly]

How many of god's children did we kill to make that happen?

Trust me dude, when you go before God, and he asks you why you let that happen, you will burn in hell.

According to Matty combat, As many as you want, as long as it's during war. You can even stir fry a few and eat them.

[MatthewT]

If there was any debate whether the Fed's policies have helped the economy or just the market (and specifically the Bernanke-targeted Russell 2000), the following two charts will end any and all debate. As the following chart from the St Louis Fed shows, as of the just completed quarter, US GDP "growth" since the "recovery" is now the worst in US history, having just dipped below the heretofore lowest on record.


A slightly prettier version of the same chart created by JPM's Michael Cembalest, is presented below:


But fear not: it is only the worst recovery ever for anyone unlucky enough to still rely on such Old Normal concepts as the "economy" to feed, clothe and provide shelter for themselves.

For those lucky 1% of the US population whose entire wealth is in financial assets (and who once again managed to avoid a tax hike on carried interest or any actual financial assets), times have almost never been so good.


Well, it's not the biggest surge in the market since the economic trough in history, but it is close. Which as Bernanke admitted some time ago (when discussing the level of the Russell 2000), is the only thing that actually matters to the Fed.

Yet oddly enough, the trickle down from the trillions in excess wealth created for those who hold financial assets, as a result of daily POMOs pumping some $85 billion, and soon more, into the stock market each month, has yet to materialize.

Oh well: just keep on doing more of what you are doing Uncle Ben, and if possible destroy the US economy even more than you already have - at this point, at least on a relative basis, you can't destroy it more.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...-recovery-ever

[Bosch76]

have any of your posts added anything to the collective here? like, any of them?

why do you post at all?

Because your lies must be countered.

[MatthewT]

Because your lies must be countered.

so list one lie i told and counter it

you know, to start doing what you say you are doing

and again, aren't you the guy i lost the $100 bet to on obama's re-election?

[Bosch76]

so list one lie i told and counter it

you know, to start doing what you say you are doing

and again, aren't you the guy i lost the $100 bet to on obama's re-election?

Yes.