Women can now serve in combat

[MyLazyHand]

What ship were you on? I was on the USS Wasp outta Norfolk back when we first started getting females onboard. I was a Corpsman and we didn't have any problems but our X.O. and CMC put the fear of God into anybody that was fucking around with any of the females. Most of my problem was running the STD clinic after port visits and checking dicks all day, literally dicks.

As far as women in combat, when I was in Iraq I had 2 female Corpsman assigned to me that had to do patrols out and around the Al Asad area with the Marine unit I was with. A few times they got into firefights and they even had to medevac 3 Marines whose Humvee blew up from an IED. She saved their lives and if she wasn't there, there's no telling whether the other Marines would've known what to do. Now granted as a Corpsman (like a medic in the Army but better), your job is in the rear with the gear in case something goes down. But they did excellent in the line of fire. I know that's not the same as firing bullets down range but what the fuck else comes close than bandaging a wounded Marine when shit's going down. I knew more than a few female Marines that could far outrun and do everything their male counterparts could do.

Hi, this is Will Murray from the Howard Stern Show. Howard supports our seamen, and he has expressed an interest in having you on the show to talk about your experience in the Navy.

[MyLazyHand]

Some of you dudes are amazing to me. If you call the cops and a woman shows up do you fell any less safe?

If I called 911 and that crew showed up, I'd say, "No I am seriously in trouble. Quit messing around and send some help."

[IlluminatiJones]

It beats a draft..................I guess.

I don't think this is a womens' lib thing; I think this is a "we need the warm bodies" thing.

[MyLazyHand]

It beats a draft..................I guess.

I don't think this is a womens' lib thing; I think this is a "we need the warm bodies" thing.

Puh-leeze.

This is all about social engineering by the Libs currently in the White House.

When women start getting shredded by snipers' bullets, you'll hear a whole different chorus from the social engineers.

Obama sends his flying robots to drop bombs in foreign countries where we're not supposed to be, and then claims he's doing women some sort of favor by allowing them to get blown up.

[Goo For You]

Obama sends his flying robots to drop bombs in foreign countries where we're not supposed to be, and then claims he's doing women some sort of favor by allowing them to get blown up.

So if a woman volunteers for combat duty, she should be rejected on the grounds that she might get killed? How is that not (conservative/reactionary) social engineering?

In your hatred for the Libruls, you guys don't really think this stuff through, do you?

[FlaFlaFlunkie]

Feminism is killing this country. Literally. Women now don't even want kids and our country is being overrun by illegal immigrants.

This is a part of the war on women, right?

[FlaFlaFlunkie]

in 1994, an alarming number of service women were becoming pregnant during training camp, consequently, they were removed from close contact with the male recruits.

And probably just as many were (and still are) getting raped by their male colleagues, who then had to report their attack to their commander, who in some cases, was either the perpetrator or, if the case couldn't be proven, would be the person who had to reprimand the woman for having sex (if she is married).

I saw that stats on the news yesterday. Looks like only 10% of all rapes reported resulted in convictions.

There's a huge problem, all right, but I don't think it's what you think.

[FlaFlaFlunkie]

So all of you whining crybbabies in this bitter rightwingnut circle jerk of a thread who believe this are actually suggesting the armed forces of the Unites States are teeming with out of control rapists and sexual predators?

I don't think the prevalence of sexual assault is any higher or lower among other co-ed groups.

I just think there's a huge problem in reporting sexual assault and the action that is taken once someone makes an allegation.

[FlaFlaFlunkie]

The repeal of DADT - that didn't come from the military?

You've gotta be kidding me.

[DogStar69]

I think they should serve....






















Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner

[FlaFlaFlunkie]

I can't tell you how many times I heard the phrase "respect the rank if not the woman" uttered. I can't even begin to tell you the frustration felt when a unit has an allotment to make of people on hazardous duty or hardship rotations or just a demanding school that still has to be met when the designated woman suddenly finds herself pregnant.

Classic example of why the military has such problems with change. Rather than complying with orders and working to implement those orders, you'll whine, lament and wallow in your bitter anger over the decision.

Those are your orders. Follow them. And when it doesn't work to your expectations, work to make them.

You know, LEAD. You're not part of the solution. You're part of the problem.

I don't even have to ask you how you feel about gays in the military.

[FlaFlaFlunkie]

When you have a group of young twenty something men raging with testosterone, void of sexual outlets, in a highly stressful battlefield situation where they can be killed any day and than you throw a woman into the mix - very bad thing will happen.

so men are unable to control themselves and (from what I gather from this post) what else should we expect from them? that's the excuse?

[Ryan Lever]

This would make being frisked better in the police force if all women were sexy!

[FlaFlaFlunkie]

I'm on the side of human nature. The same segment of rapist fuck heads we have within society is in the military as well.

This.

[Kamie]

You've gotta be kidding me.

Nope. I really don't know who drove that decision.

[Kamie]

Some of you dudes are amazing to me. If you call the cops and a woman shows up do you fell any less safe?

Not at all! My point is that physical standards should not be reduced for women. If they can perform the same tasks as the men then great.

[SuperFarts]

Isnt the actual purpose of this so that the troops have broads to bang?

And what about the heavy-hitters? Seems like every other chic weighs 300 pounds. Couldnt they serve as human shields or provide some shade for the men?

[Kamie]

Just food for thought.....Colonel Allen West weighs in:
On SecDef Leon Panetta's statement re: opening up direct combat billets to women. First of all, lwomen in combat zones are serving in combat and the new 21st century battlefield meansanyone outside of their FOB( Forward Operating Base) will potentially be engaged in a combat situation.


However, to make the insidious policy decision that we shall now open up combat billets to women is something completely different. GI Jane was a movie and should not be the basis for a policy shift. I know Martha McSally, have known women who are Apache and Cobra helicopter pilots, and served with women who were MPs, but being on the ground and having to go mano y mano in close combat is a completely different environment.


I completely disagree with this decision and can just imagine all the third and fourth order effects and considerations for implementation, such as standards for training. Unless the Obama administration has not noticed we are fighting against a brutal enemy and now is not the time to play a social experiment with our ground combat forces. President Obama, as Commander-in-Chief, should be focused on sequestration and the failure of his policies in the Middle East. This is the misconceived liberal progressive vision of fairness and equality which could potentially lead to the demise of our military.

[The Snork]

[FlaFlaFlunkie]

Nope. I really don't know who drove that decision.

the military fought tooth and nail to keep it in place.
DADT

Even when Obama took office, he refused to use executive order to repeal the policy, favoring Congress to repeal the legislation, but after he became President, by 2010, he articulated a position which favored ending DADT. Even Joint Chiefs Chairman, Mike Mullen, a prior supporter of the policy backed Obama's position.

During the 2008 presidential election campaign, Senator Barack Obama advocated a full repeal of the laws barring gays and lesbians from serving in the military.[115]

Nineteen days after his election, Obama's advisers announced that plans to repeal the policy might be delayed until 2010, because Obama "first wants to confer with the Joint Chiefs of Staff and his new political appointees at the Pentagon to reach a consensus, and then present legislation to Congress".[116]


As president he advocated a policy change to allow gay personnel to serve openly in the armed forces, stating that the U.S. government has spent millions of dollars replacing troops expelled from the military, including language experts fluent in Arabic, because of DADT.[117]


On the eve of the National Equality March in Washington, D.C., October 10, 2009, Obama stated in a speech before the Human Rights Campaign that he would end the ban, but he offered no timetable.[118][119] Obama said in his 2010 State of the Union Address: "This year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are."[120]


This statement was quickly followed up by Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs Chairman Michael Mullen voicing their support for a repeal of DADT.[121]