Howard is a symbol of Jewish racism and elitism!

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I'm nearly alone in the belief that Jesus never even existed.

and just so i don't come across as too conciliatory, he most likely did exist in some form.

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The ancient Greeks were the most brilliant motherfuckers. Took a classics course in University. Professor was a Jewish dude who previously lived in Greece for 10 years. Great professor . . .

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The ancient Greeks were the most brilliant motherfuckers.

agreed. however, there's no longer a need to teach our children in schools about those evil europeans when there's so much to learn about the ancient inca, malis and south pacific aborigines. why introduce socrates when we can have them read maya angelou poems?

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Agreed. However why introduce Socrates when we can have them read Maya Angelou poems?

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in that sense, i would agree. i only want to emphasize that when discussing these matters, one must place arguments within a historical context.

I'll catch shit for this, but today's Christianity is entirely removed from history. Neither the Christian or Catholic church accepts or embraces a significant amount of history in its name. And I can forgive that because I see the modern Christian and Catholic as something new and diluted entirely.

Modern day Christianity is a whole new religion and it welcomes all who are willing to submit. If I was cynical, I'd say it was in survival mode.

Judaism, on the other hand, has not bent. That's my only point.

and the jews 'exclusivity' has perplexed great minds since the ancient greeks--so you're in good company cp.

I wouldn't necessarily consider myself "perplexed." I'm not in awe of Judaism either. In fact, I find it disappointing that it was so blatantly lifted from cultures in Egypt and Mesopotamia.

[pontius pilot]

I'll catch shit for this, but today's Christianity is entirely removed from history. Neither the Christian or Catholic church accepts or embraces a significant amount of history in its name. And I can forgive that because I see the modern Christian and Catholic as something new entirely.

Modern day Christianity is a whole new religion and it welcomes all who are willing to submit. If I was cynical, I'd say it was in survival mode.

Judaism, on the other hand, has not bent. That's my only point.




I wouldn't necessarily consider myself "perplexed." I'm not in awe of Judaism either. In fact, I find it disappointing that it was so blatantly lifted from cultures in Egypt and Mesopotamia.

1. the history of the christian church is incredibly well documented and has been investigated/deconstructed by some of the greatest minds in history. it would greatly aid anyone interested in said topic to read as much as possible of it--secular and faithful alike.
2. christiainity in the west is in fact in 'survival mode'.
3. okay, you're not perplexed. fair enough.
4. you shouldn't be "disappointed" in judaism's appropriation of aspects/narratives of neighboring cultures. that is the rule of history, not the exception.

sorry for the numbers but i suck at quoting...

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agreed. however, there's no longer a need to teach our children in schools about those evil europeans when there's so much to learn about the ancient inca, malis and south pacific aborigines. why introduce socrates when we can have them read maya angelou poems?

Aristotle
Dead White European Male and an unindicted co-conspirator. Invented logic as a tool to subdue the oppressed masses and minorities by imposing the so-called "rationality" as part of the international White male hegemony. The oppressive "reason-oriented" Western societies are the direct result of his conspiratorial efforts.

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-to...y-t42.html#Ari

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1. the history of the christian church is incredibly well documented and has been investigated/deconstructed by some of the greatest minds in history. it would greatly aid anyone interested in said topic to read as much as possible of it--secular and faithful alike.
2. christiainity in the west is in fact in 'survival mode'.
3. okay, you're not perplexed. fair enough.
4. you shouldn't be "disappointed" in judaism's appropriation of aspects/narratives of neighboring cultures. that is the rule of history, not the exception.

sorry for the numbers but i suck at quoting...

I get the rule of history; that's why I hate that Judeo-Christianity is seen as something special. They're just the plagiarisms that stuck in the West. Nothing more.

And I'm not disregarding the history of Christianity...I'm simply stating a fact: Modern Christianity does disregard that history. The Catholics pick and choose at it somewhat, but Christianity in general holds non-canon history in no particular regard. Most post-Lutheran churches cite scripture, not Luther. The modern Christian church knows better than to cite its own history.

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Aristotle
Dead White European Male and an unindicted co-conspirator. Invented logic as a tool to subdue the oppressed masses and minorities by imposing the so-called "rationality" as part of the international White male hegemony. The oppressive "reason-oriented" Western societies are the direct result of his conspiratorial efforts.

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-to...y-t42.html#Ari

h aha ha ha ha ah aha ha!

don't worry, according to bernal, the greeks stole all of their knowledge from 'black egyptians'. by the way, many universities use his work as required reading.



this civilization is slowing killing itself.

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I get the rule of history; that's why I hate that Judeo-Christianity is seen as something special. They're just the plagiarisms that stuck in the West. Nothing more.

considering we're arguing about it and a great many of the earth's inhabitants believe it, i'd say it's somewhat 'special'. furthermore, your arguments about 'plagiarisms' is far too simple and smacks a little of 'zeitgeist history' to be honest.

And I'm not disregarding the history of Christianity...I'm simply stating a fact: Modern Christianity does disregard that history. The Catholics pick and choose at it somewhat, but Christianity in general holds non-canon history in no particular regard. Most post-Lutheran churches cite scripture, not Luther. The modern Christian church knows better than to cite its own history.

i'll be honest, i'm not entirely sure what your arguing here.

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considering we're arguing about it and a great many of the earth's inhabitants believe it, i'd say it's somewhat 'special'. furthermore, your arguments about 'plagiarisms' is far too simple and smacks a little of 'zeitgeist history' to be honest.



i'll be honest, i'm not entirely sure what your arguing here.

Zeitgeist history? If you're referring to the documentary, I've never seen it. I'm stating that the cult of Hebrew monotheism came directly after the Egyptian pharaoh, Akhenaten, proclaimed that a single sun god ruled over the planet. Only after that did Judaism emerge. And it's no coincidence that "Abraham", who traveled to Israel from Mesopotamia, just happened to coincide with the early Hebrew monotheists adopting stories from the Epic of Gilgamesh that were already written hundreds of years earlier.
If Judaism is special because it exists today, than so are the Maya who left modern day idiots frantic a month ago.

i'll be honest, i'm not entirely sure what your arguing here.

I'm simply reiterating that modern day Christianity is inclusive because it doesn't regard its past. Intentionally. So long as you believe in their lord, you're in the group. History means little to them...their faith allows that somehow.

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Zeitgeist history? If you're referring to the documentary, I've never seen it. I'm stating that the cult of Hebrew monotheism came directly after the Egyptian pharaoh, Akhenaten, proclaimed that a single sun god ruled over the planet. Only after that did Judaism emerge. And it's no coincidence that "Abraham", who traveled to Israel from Mesopotamia, just happened to coincide with the early Hebrew monotheists adopting stories from the Epic of Gilgamesh that were already written hundreds of years earlier.

all that you stated is correct. however, to then refer to it as mere 'plagiarism' is not accurate.

I'm simply reiterating that modern day Christianity is inclusive because it doesn't regard its past. Internationally. So ong as you believe in their lord, you're in the group. History means little to them...their faith allows that somehow.

if them are american evangelicals or run of the mill catholics, then agreed.

however, over the the nineteenth century many liberal theologians, especially german, delved deep into church history in a search to marry reason to faith (men like friedrich schleimacher, for example). some feel that they succeeded in their quest, others are certain that they did not. and to this day there exists some very well read, yet religiously faithful, individuals of all confessions that can carry on very intelligent debates without ignoring the historical record (take peter hitchens for example).

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all that you stated is correct. however, to then refer to it as mere 'plagiarism' is not accurate.

I guess we disagree on what constitutes "plagiarism," I have no doubt that Judaism was built on a direct form of Aten worship. Potentially offering a new religion to people unfamiliar, yet containing the exact same principles, constitutes "plagiarism" to me.

Would you not argue that Muhammad's Koran is direct plagiarism? Swapping Ismael and Issac and rendering Jesus a prophet doesn't negate that rest of of the Koran is theological theft.

if them are american evangelicals or run of the mill catholics, then agreed.

I'm talking about the average christian, not the typical theologian. Let's be honest here, my friend. The average Christian is no theologian. The churches did their best to prevent that from ever happening.

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Would you not argue that Muhammad's Koran is direct plagiarism? Swapping Ismael and Issac and rendering Jesus a prophet doesn't negate that rest of of the Koran is theological theft.

direct 'plagiarism'? in parts, certainly yes. however, can we agree on appropriation and adaptation?--only because a great deal was reinterpreted and added.

I'm talking about the average christian, not the typical theologian. Let's be honest here, my friend. The average Christian is no theologian. The churches did their best to prevent that from ever happening.

this is where i expose myself as a heathen who has had, and continues to have, next to no personal direct interaction with faithful christians, jews or mohammedans (throughout my entire life). in all honesty, you're most likely 100% correct on this--sadly.

btw: how great is it that we can chop beth sucking off etm the one minute, and then go on to discuss the above in the next. ba'al bless dawgs.

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Howard is a symbol of Jewish racism and elitism! most of the Jewish people i know are pretty great. but Howard represents that Jewish inbred type that thinks of all other races as dangerous and unworthy! mel sounds like a racist ass, but how about howards views of Hispanics and blacks? before the agt change he spoke of Hispanics especially as if they had no societal value. and they are mostly housekeepers and criminals. why is his form of racism okay?

YES...

I had no problem with the jew before Howard. I even dated one. (I look at my dick each night thinking about cutting it of now)
Howard is every single jew stereotype.
That got me to read up on the jew. And the jew is everywhere.

The Jew is like a club. For example: fanatical Giants fans. They take care of each other first and hate everyone else. The Jew learn from child legs that they are special. That everybody hates them. That they are oppressed. They feel entitled. Add to that health issues from in-breading. Many of them are mentally ill. Having babies within the tribe for 5000 years make some sick people.

Download Mein Kampf audio book and listen to the chapter about the jew. Its 100% spot on.

From liking jews to: I want to deport them to Israel.

The Jew have no self-critizism. They have ALWAYS been hated. Its their own fault. They make people hate them. And all who don't hate them are just uneducated.