Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots intruder

[O Face]

Oh No Mr. Slater was shot!

[Lemmy]

Sawed-off shotguns would be a solution. But they're illegal, right?

I didn't say sawed off.....I said compact. There are legal short-er barrel shotguns. The Remington 870s we carry in our cars are compact enough and perfectly legal for anyone to own and very manageable in tight spaces. A "standard" shotgun that hunters use are just a tad unwieldy.

Personally if I felt it was an advantage to saw the barrel off of a shotgun to have a more efficient home protector I think I'd go that route and risk a charge should I need to use it.

[Popeye Saavedra]

Oh No Mr. Slater was shot!

A.C.?????

[O Face]

A.C.?????

Owen Schlayta

[renchfrieswith]

Is that what the woman was using? .38 Special, or what? They're a hefty round, easily a killer, but not nearly as powerful as many other handguns.

Sure, but I'd think 5 shots in the facial area would kill you.

It goes back to the gangsters days of Prohibition. In 1937 (?) the Feds outlawed/restricted a bunch of stuff like full-auto guns, silencers, sawed-off shotguns, etc. because the gangsters were kicking their asses. Since the gangsters were criminals and killers to begin with, I'm not sure how effective that was. I'm curious about one point though, maybe someone here knows: Why can I buy a .410 revolver pistol, but I can't have a "sawed-off shotgun"? Like is it a caliber issue, or whut?

I remember an old Burt Reynolds movie, where Jerry Reed was a redneck mafia kinda guy who carried a sawed-off dbl brl 12 gauge with a barrel about 4" long, and to fire it he had to hold/mash it down with his left hand, which seems very believable.....that would be like having a stick of dynamite go off in your hand.....

Interesting story.

I googled that .410 stuff, and that's bad-ass, man. Shotgun rounds in a revolver? Holy shit!

I fired a semi-auto 12 gauge last year and there's some serious punch behind that. I would have trouble firing that with one hand.

I didn't say sawed off.....I said compact. There are legal short-er barrel shotguns. The Remington 870s we carry in our cars are compact enough and perfectly legal for anyone to own and very manageable in tight spaces. A "standard" shotgun that hunters use are just a tad unwieldy.

Personally if I felt it was an advantage to saw the barrel off of a shotgun to have a more efficient home protector I think I'd go that route and risk a charge should I need to use it.

What kind of trouble would you get into if you shot a burgular in your house with a sawed-off?

[Cheri]

This guy survived 5 shots to the face? Super nig.

[renchfrieswith]

This is pretty bad-ass. And cheap.

[GHP]

This guy survived 5 shots to the face? Super nig.

He drove off crying like a baby

Girl done good

[Cheri]

How can you drive after being shot 5 times?

[renchfrieswith]

Oh No Mr. Slater was shot!

Fucking asshole spoiler!!!!!

[fletchman71]

What kind of trouble would you get into if you shot a burgular in your house with a sawed-off?

I imagine a shitload because you are probably violating federal law and the feds don't fuck around with that.

[Austinchota]

I'll convince her eventually.

Self-defense is an inherent human right. The only sure victim-prevention lies with the victim-to-be.

Personal security is nobody’s responsibility but your own.

It could be the last line of defense for a family. Since criminals will almost always have guns, there’s no reasonable expectation of self-defense if law-abiding citizens don’t have them, too.

It's the best single tool for protecting your life and the lives of your loved ones. One expects to need a gun less often than a hammer, but, borrowing a gun is not an option.

The next natural disaster (blackouts, hurricanes, ice storms, etc.) could lead to home invasion / robbery.

Better than a knife past 2 yards.

When seconds count, the police arrive in minutes (or hours). We call the police because they have guns, not pens to document what already happened to us.

Carrying a gun is a lighter burden than regret.

One is several more times likely, in one’s lifetime, to need a handgun to deal with a lethal threat than you are to need fire insurance on your home . . . yet more people carry fire insurance than carry a gun.

Convert force into persuasion.

The simple act of having a gun is its own best use. Like a battleship parked off the coast its mere presence changes the dynamic of the situation without having to fire a single shot. By having a gun you become too dangerous to your predators. Criminals interviewed in jail say they don’t want anything to do with an armed civilian. That change in human predators is exactly what I want to accomplish.

There are evil people in the world that can’t be talked or reeducated out of trying to kill, hurt or rob you. There are people in this world to whom you’re not a human being. One is merely an obstacle to obtaining your possessions. Someone can protect oneself against criminals who use guns as a deadly extension of their inability to deal with people. After you hand over the money, they’ll still kill you for being a witness. Violent offenders shy away from houses and people who are likely to be armed.

[Austinchota]

I googled that .410 stuff, and that's bad-ass, man. Shotgun rounds in a revolver? Holy shit!

The Taurus Judge and S&W Governor are a hoot, but I'll stick with the proven balistics of hollow point ammo.

[MatthewT]

dude wasn't shot 5 times in the head; he was shot in like the lung, liver, spleen, and other non-fatal center mass targets

the husband taught her well

[HeinousMark]

I googled that .410 stuff, and that's bad-ass, man. Shotgun rounds in a revolver? Holy shit!

I fired a semi-auto 12 gauge last year and there's some serious punch behind that. I would have trouble firing that with one hand.

I've thought about getting one of those .410's for a snake-gun when I'm in the woods...I really don't think it would be a good self-defense weapon against humans, though.

As for the .12ga, you didn't get the full effect if it was semi-auto; the recoil that operates the bolt mechanism is lost force, which makes them friendlier to your shoulder. A pump or breakover gun, like a double barrel, you get all the power right on your shoulder, and after many years, I've decided it's just not fun

What kind of trouble would you get into if you shot a burgular in your house with a sawed-off?

You would be in MUCH, MUCH more trouble than the burglar, at least from the legal aspect. The Feds don't play around with that shit, not ever, not even a little.