How to Get a New Assault-Weapons Ban Through Congress

[newcastlefan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/op....html?src=recg

This is just too intelligent; it specifically targets the offensive features and guns while explicitly excluding all other guns by name, brand, type and design. it will never get the support of the current idiocracy congress. it's a pity because it's actually a good approach which could work because unlike every other proposal to date, it makes sense even to NRA supporters.


"...The bill had three main components. The first was a list of well-known, deeply feared guns that were banned by name (like Uzis). The second banned the future manufacture and sale of any new semiautomatic weapon with a detachable magazine and more than two of several assault-style features (like a forward handgrip). The third and most critical section was Appendix A, which listed every single hunting rifle and shotgun in use at the time — there were hundreds — that didn’t run afoul of the features test in the second component. Those firearms were unequivocally exempted from the bill.

At the time, gun-control advocates resisted the incorporation of Appendix A. But the idea behind it was and remains crucial to making any meaningful changes in America’s gun laws. They must gain the support of gun owners, most of whom are heartsick over senseless carnage.
By explicitly protecting hundreds of popular sporting guns, the bill enabled senators and representatives to push back against the tide of protests — many of them generated by the National Rifle Association — at town hall-style meetings in their states and districts. They could show their constituents that their ordinary hunting rifles and shotguns were protected in Appendix A or that their guns could be added to it, if need be. Proponents of the legislation distributed blue booklets describing all three parts of the bill, including pictures of the assault weapons banned by name and the full list of guns protected by Appendix A... "

[walleye]

Not this again.......

[Daveindiego]

Whats wrong with limiting magazines to 5 rounds?

[Daveindiego]

Whats wrong with requiring the manufacture of more complex magazine replacements, i.e. several 'safety' features to disengage and reengage?

[2Manboobs]

They should ban Testicles, cause testosterone always seems to lead to violence

[Daveindiego]

Whats wrong with limiting weaponry available to citizenry to be the equivalent of 1770 technology?

[newcastlefan]

Whats wrong with limiting magazines to 5 rounds?

its too general and therefore too easily exploited to target devices never originally intended or agreed upon by the original bill. the SFO proposal was acceptable because it was so specific; it targeted specific devices the way the FDA targets specific drugs.

[newcastlefan]

They should ban Testicles, cause testosterone always seems to lead to violence

all hormones do that. might as well ban cholesterol since it is the precursor of both testosterone and estrogen.

[newcastlefan]

Whats wrong with limiting weaponry available to citizenry to be the equivalent of 1770 technology?

because it's too stupid. it's the kind of proposal that is so ignorant that it offends the intelligence of all citizens.

[PI Nate]

Whats wrong with limiting magazines to 5 rounds?

That number is arbitrary and ridiculous. I can drop a spent mag and pop in another in under 2 seconds...

[newcastlefan]

Whats wrong with requiring the manufacture of more complex magazine replacements, i.e. several 'safety' features to disengage and reengage?

because any unintelligent generality you can think of, can be subverted by a dedicated engineer. as long as you try to implement generalizations they will be opposed and worked around.

[newcastlefan]

Not this again.......

why? you have something better to discuss?

[walleye]

why? you have something better to discuss?

Why yes. Downhill mountainbike race in a few hours. Pedals or clipless pedals? It's on snow.

[PI Nate]

why? you have something better to discuss?

how about boobs?

[walleye]

Pedals or boobs. You pick. Hurry, though.

[tomtom]

They should ban Testicles, cause testosterone always seems to lead to violence

DaveinDiego doesn't have to worry about that.

[newcastlefan]

Why yes. Downhill mountainbike race in a few hours. Pedals or clipless pedals? It's on snow.

i like clipless. i almost broke my ankle with clips.

[newcastlefan]

how about boobs?

always boobs, but after a while of looking unless i can taste them i lose interest.

[walleye]

i like clipless. i almost broke my ankle with clips.

Clipless means your locked in.

[Daveindiego]

DaveinDiego doesn't have to worry about that.

I bet I could shove my balls down your wife's throat.