'I've got way more listeners than Dave Letterman has viewers'

**king october** · 01-04-2013, 08:11 AM

Fucking delusional.

Jon Hein says 10M listeners a day.

Letterman has 3M a night.

**Kanye West** · 01-04-2013, 08:13 AM

jesus christ this is a stupid ass point

**Beth143nacho** · 01-04-2013, 08:15 AM

Ok, Howard. Since you're certain, I'm sure you have numbers to back that up. Please show them to us.

**itpdude** · 01-04-2013, 08:17 AM

If you ask a group of people about Dave Letterman, they'll be aware he still does a show.

If you ask that same group of people about The Pelican, they'll say, "he still does a show?"

**Mr Fantastic** · 01-04-2013, 08:17 AM

Are there even 10M Sirius subscribers?

**king october** · 01-04-2013, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Fantastic

Are there even 10M Sirius subscribers?

He said there were 23M subscribers.

**Mr Fantastic** · 01-04-2013, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by king october

He said there were 23M subscribers.

Wonder how many of those have access to 100/101?

**itpdude** · 01-04-2013, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Fantastic

Are there even 10M Sirius subscribers?

There are 22M SiriusXM subs. Roughly a little over half are XM only listeners.

But in The Pelican's universe, every one of those subs only have SiriusXM for The Wig.

**Mr Fantastic** · 01-04-2013, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by itpdude

There are 22M SiriusXM subs. Roughly a little over half are XM only listeners.

But in The Pelican's universe, every one of those subs only have SiriusXM for The Wig.

Gotcha. And for each sub there are 6 people listening, so 100 billion may be more likely.

**racerx** · 01-04-2013, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by itpdude

There are 22M SiriusXM subs. Roughly a little over half are XM only listeners.

But in The Pelican's universe, every one of those subs only have SiriusXM for The Wig.

we know for a fact it's less than a million, we just don't know how much less.

**Kamie** · 01-04-2013, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by itpdude

There are 22M SiriusXM subs. Roughly a little over half are XM only listeners.

But in The Pelican's universe, every one of those subs only have SiriusXM for The Wig.

If they are XM only listeners they have to pay extra to get the "best of Sirius" package. Right.

**boomer1976** · 01-04-2013, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Kamie

If they are XM only listeners they have to pay extra to get the "best of Sirius" package. Right.

Yes, and a small percentage of those XM listeners paid for the Sirius package that includes Howard. The numbers have been quoted here before. Way more people chose not to take the Sirius package. Howard wants them credited as his subscribers as well. This is the basis for the lawsuit. Howard wants credit for all SiriusXM subscribers and Sirius only wants t credit Howard for those that actually are able to listen to him.

**Rob0729** · 01-04-2013, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by itpdude

There are 22M SiriusXM subs. Roughly a little over half are XM only listeners.

But in The Pelican's universe, every one of those subs only have SiriusXM for The Wig.

And how many listens are multi-subscribers? I bet a significant portion of the listeners have two or more subscriptions. Are we really counting each person who has multiple subscriptions are more than one person? I have three subscriptions (I started subscribing long before Howard announced he was moving to Sirius.

You gotta realize that most of Howard's remaining superfans are mindless lemmings who believe anything Howard and his gang tell them. They believe this BS.

Seriously, if Howard had 10 million listeners a day, the AGT ratings would have skyrocketed this past season. Both AGT and the Stern Show have very different demos. So the likelihood of a significant majority of Stern listeners being also AGT viewers prior to Howard joining was probably negligible. With Howard joining, you gotta think that at least 30-50% of his listeners would have watched at least the first few episodes of both the start of the season and the start of the live shows. If his listenership was 10 million a day, it should have more than offset the loss of AGT loyal viewers who were turned off by Howard and the natural yearly drop off of the show. He should have added at least 3-5 million new viewers and the season ended down 20%. Do anyone really think that without the new Howard viewers to AGT, the show would have dropped 40-60% in viewership?

**Howards Wig** · 01-04-2013, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rob0729

You gotta realize that most of Howard's remaining superfans are mindless lemmings who believe anything Howard and his gang tell them. They believe this BS.

I think the remaining "fans" of the show (meaning folks who still think Howie is bringing the funny) are folks who are either blind, or think that current dressed in black Howie is still edgy, so if they are fans, they must be edgy too. That recent stern fan award show clip hosted by fat housewives pretty much confirmed it for me (even the fat dude looked like a housewife).

I still think there has to be a class action suit around that horrible hardware they sold.

**TelegramSam** · 01-04-2013, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Howards Wig

I think the remaining "fans" of the show (meaning folks who still think Howie is bringing the funny) are folks who are either blind, or think that current dressed in black Howie is still edgy, so if they are fans, they must be edgy too. That recent stern fan award show clip hosted by fat housewives pretty much confirmed it for me (even the fat dude looked like a housewife).

I still think there has to be a class action suit around that horrible hardware they sold.

There actually was a class action suit involving lifetime subs and broken hardware, but it was only in one state. I can't remember which one. There was also a class action suit in the same state relating to Customer Service calls, and if you tried to cancel during a certain time period you were entitled to about $500. Again though, it was only in one state.