Congrats dummies: You voted for a guy that HAS raised your taxes

[racerx]

what is "fair"?
who defines what is "fair"?
who gets to implement what is "fair"?
what is the inherent greatness in "fair"?
is "fair" more likely to lift up the lower masses, or drag down the upper?
how is that "fair"?

fair is everyone paying the same %. tho simpson-bowles is the fairest plan that has any chance of passing.

marriam-websiter defined it

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the greatest is that our debt would be paid down making our money worth more. and small-med business could expand and hire more workers and generate more profit thus pay more tax(even tho rates are lower). and instead of us paying people unemployment forever, they would pay taxes and spend money which is good for the economy. so it would decrease gov spending, and increase gov revenue. it's not that complicated.

neither. it affords the opportunity for people to lift up themselves. howard can still write off his helicopter fuel, just not 100 million worth

it's fair because everyone would pay close to the same %

[MatthewT]

so, everyone paying the same 20% would be fair

a guy making $10,000 a year pays $2,000, leaving him $8,000 on which to live

a guy making $10,000,000 a year pays $2,000,000, leaving him $8,000,000 on which to live

that's fair to you?

[racerx]

so, everyone paying the same 20% would be fair

a guy making $10,000 a year pays $2,000, leaving him $8,000 on which to live

a guy making $10,000,000 a year pays $2,000,000, leaving him $8,000,000 on which to live

that's fair to you?

correct. though simpson-bowles is more realistic.

why wouldn't the people complaining about having to pay 39%, be thrilled to only have to pay 20%?

what's fair to you?

[Bosch76]

If it is currently unfair to the rich why was Mitt Romney barely paying 13%??????????

[SiriusDawg]

so, everyone paying the same 20% would be fair

a guy making $10,000 a year pays $2,000, leaving him $8,000 on which to live

a guy making $10,000,000 a year pays $2,000,000, leaving him $8,000,000 on which to live

that's fair to you?

It is absolutely not fair.

The guy with only $8M to live on surely would rather be in the guys place make $8K per year.

[SiriusDawg]

Derrrrrrrrr

You do realize that when he asks you something and you post these pictures....it is basically your way of admitting that you have no answer?

[newcastlefan]

If it is currently unfair to the rich why was Mitt Romney barely paying 13%??????????

because it was legal for him to do so.

[MatthewT]

correct. though simpson-bowles is more realistic.

why wouldn't the people complaining about having to pay 39%, be thrilled to only have to pay 20%?

what's fair to you?

to me, "fair" is a hypothetical construct used by Democrats, Demagogues and Dictators to exert control over a population.

for instance, in the earlier example, a demagogue would think it fair to take $5,000,000 from the rich man and give it to the poor man, a la obama and every other marxist/socialist/social democrat on the face of the planet. to them, that's "fair"

[racerx]

to me, "fair" is a hypothetical construct used by Democrats, Demagogues and Dictators to exert control over a population.

for instance, in the earlier example, a demagogue would think it fair to take $5,000,000 from the rich man and give it to the poor man, a la obama and every other marxist/socialist/social democrat on the face of the planet. to them, that's "fair"

you hate people with a D by there name, i already know that.
but i asked you what tax plan you think is fair


since ryan(and many other republicans) agreed with the president on his tax plan, are they marxist/socialist/social democratrepublicans?

and since some democrats voted against it, how is it fair include them in this line? "hypothetical construct used by Democrats, Demagogues and Dictators to exert control over a population"

[SiriusDawg]

take $5,000,000 from the rich man and give it to the poor man

What do you mean exactly by taking $5M and give it to the poor? Are you talking about higher tax rates for higher earners in general? If so, why did you wait to cry about this when higher earners have been taxed more since....well, when exactly have they not?

Why is it people like you suddenly seem to care about issues that have existed for so many years and spanned across numerous Republican Presidents and Congressmen/women?

Obama is a terrible human for taxing the rich more....Bush taxed the rich more (rate-wise) yet seems to get some sort of free pass for no apparent reason as do every GOP President before him under the current tax code (in general that is...meaning, including the '54 version of the Code)

[MatthewT]

you hate people with a D by there name, i already know that.
but i asked you what tax plan you think is fair


since ryan(and many other republicans) agreed with the president on his tax plan, are they marxist/socialist/social democratrepublicans?

and since some democrats voted against it, how is it fair include them in this line? "hypothetical construct used by Democrats, Demagogues and Dictators to exert control over a population"

i don't do anything on the basis that it is "fair". there is no "fair". there never has been, and there never will be

a workable, doable, growth economy tax plan, with a $35,000 deduction, and a 17% flat tax thereafter, with no death taxes, no capital gains taxes, and no VAT would suit me just fine

government is not the solution; it's the problem. it must be starved to death or it will consume us all.

[MatthewT]

What do you mean exactly by taking $5M and give it to the poor? Are you talking about higher tax rates for higher earners in general? If so, why did you wait to cry about this when higher earners have been taxed more since....well, when exactly have they not?

Why is it people like you suddenly seem to care about issues that have existed for so many years and spanned across numerous Republican Presidents and Congressmen/women?

Obama is a terrible human for taxing the rich more....Bush taxed the rich more (rate-wise) yet seems to get some sort of free pass for no apparent reason as do every GOP President before him under the current tax code (in general that is...meaning, including the '54 version of the Code)

only one president in memory says that he is in favor of re-distribution of wealth, and in favor of a leaner executive to take from the "rich" and give to the "poor". only one. if you missed it, youtube "obama believes in redistribution of wealth"