is passing debt to future generations a good or bad idea?

**MatthewT** · 12-13-2012, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by zhukov

I tutor MBA students on the finer points of finance, statistics, operations management, etc.

it shows, buddy

**MatthewT** · 12-13-2012, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by RiotGrip

A blogger with no degree in economics tells you there wasn't a surplus only after the right wing noise machine realizes Bush won't ever be able to privatize SSI (his main second term goal)and relieve the govt's responsibility to the trust fund and yet you aren't being duped. Maybe you should look at the timing of such nonsensical things. Also I mathmatically proved that even by Steiner's incorrect definition of what a budget surplus was, there was still surplus money beyond what was added to intragovernmental holdings.

can you tie your shoes with those stubby little forearms, or do you wear those old man velcro shoes?

**RiotGrip** · 12-13-2012, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

all of the pollsters that oversampled democrats oversampled democrats. based on what, God only knows. was it an encouragement to democratic voters? you bet your ass it was.

for example, let's say 10000 people polled, 2 man race, actual numbers come out 3,334 Republican, 3,333 Democrat, and 3,333 Independent (whatever the fuck that means).

so if you report the actual numbers, republicans are ahead. still with me?

now massage those numbers for party affiliation. assume, what, 2008 numbers, approx. so 39% Democrat, 32% Republican, and 29% Independent (probably embarrassed Republicans).

39/33 x 3,333 Democrats = 3,939
32/33 x 3,334 Republicans = 3,232
29/33 x 3,333 Independants = 2,929

Poll Original (without massaging for party affiliation): R 33.34%, D 33.33%

Poll Fixed (massaging for party affiliation): D 39.39%, R 32.32%

so with no new data whatsoever, this supposedly random sampling that showed the narrowest of Republican wins originally now shows a comfortable 7.07% Democratic lead.

same numbers. same people who said they were voting how they were voting.

do you get it now?

I always got it, but the 2012 numbers were nearly identical to 2008 in the party ID skew, so the entire point trying to made i.e. there are way more republicans ready to vote against Obama was wrong. But talk radio has sure done a good job getting you to explain a fallacy

**RiotGrip** · 12-13-2012, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

can you tie your shoes with those stubby little forearms, or do you wear those old man velcro shoes?

Well matthew since human anatomy is another topic you have no understanding of, I'll just say I use my hands and fingers to tie shoes, forearm size is irrelavent.

By the way, do you look at your wife with those same stalker eyes?

**MatthewT** · 12-13-2012, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by RiotGrip

I always got it, but the 2012 numbers were nearly identical to 2008 in the party ID skew, so the entire point trying to made i.e. there are way more republicans ready to vote against Obama was wrong. But talk radio has sure done a good job getting you to explain a fallacy

so, in your world, obama won by 7%?

**MatthewT** · 12-13-2012, 01:49 PM

can you clap your hands together?

**MatthewT** · 12-13-2012, 01:50 PM

**RiotGrip** · 12-13-2012, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

so, in your world, obama won by 7%?

No in my world there were more people calling themselves democrats than republicans by a factor of 7%--the attempted disavowing of this fact was the basis of the whole skewed polls conspiracy theory. Unfortunately for the imbeciles that preached it they couldn't have been more wrong.

**RiotGrip** · 12-13-2012, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

can you clap your hands together?

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Matthew you are a california resident correct? Haven't you learned what happens when the value of one's real estate increases exponentially quick? The Riot real-estate value is going to increase at an unsustainable pace and cause it to crash before you know it.

Also in your world where man roamed the earth with dinosaurs, me being a t-rex is a realistic thought so carry on