Having your cat declawed is animal abuse

**Dawg** · 11-21-2012, 12:45 PM

Someone needs to tell the Sterns that having cats declawed is animal cruelty. In some areas it could cause death if the cat cant climb a tree to get away from a big dog.

https://twitter.com/BethStern/status/271336327197360128

**Dawg** · 11-21-2012, 12:46 PM

Stern says he adopted the cats already declawed. Another Stern lie

**Chimney Portions** · 11-21-2012, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dawg

Stern says he adopted the cats already declawed. Another Stern lie

Who spends the money to have a cat declawed and then abandons it? Howard and Beth are truly awful people.

**Dawg** · 11-21-2012, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Chimney Portions

Who spends the money to have a cat declawed and then abandons it? Howard and Beth are truly awful people.

If only the rest of the World knew the Stern's like we do.

**233monte** · 11-21-2012, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Chimney Portions

Who spends the money to have a cat declawed and then abandons it? Howard and Beth are truly awful people.

My cousin has 3 cats, aol from shelters and all were declawed. People do retarded shit all the time like that.

**Crazy Marcus** · 11-21-2012, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dawg

Stern says he adopted the cats already declawed. Another Stern lie

doubt it is a lie, hard to even find a place that declaws. that is probably why they adopted adult cats instead of kittens.

**tHISisKiSSeL** · 11-21-2012, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Crazy Marcus

doubt it is a lie, hard to even find a place that declaws. that is probably why they adopted adult cats instead of kittens.

money can buy anything. it's probably easy to find a vet who will do it when you're rich. it's particularly disgusting that they did it to adult cats. a kitten might forget it easier.

**PI Nate** · 11-21-2012, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Dawg

Stern says he adopted the cats already declawed. Another Stern lie

He meant, immediately after choosing a cat, NSAL declawed the cat, then he got it. Soooo technically, he's telling the truth...

**Herc** · 11-21-2012, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Dawg

Stern says he adopted the cats already declawed. Another Stern lie

Howard only cares about not having to replace his pricey possessions. Regardless of their bullshit "love thy animal more than thy human philosophy" . . .

**gail ha chu** · 11-21-2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dawg

Stern says he adopted the cats already declawed. Another Stern lie

There are so many declawed cats in shelters. People will surrender their cats for the pettiest reasons. Just look on petfind.com and you'll see thousands of declawed cats for adoption.

**RH Goatcabin** · 11-21-2012, 12:49 PM

More Stern pain.

**Dawg** · 11-21-2012, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by RH Goatcabin

More Stern pain.

It just burns me up to see a cat with no claws. It's unnatural.

**boomer1976** · 11-21-2012, 01:08 PM

My asshole cat is declawed because we had babies at the time as well. We got him from a shelter before they had to put him down. I didn't like to do it but the kids come first so that's that. Where he was older when we got him he would not stay inside no matter what we tried. Again he had to go out or he was going back to the shelter to die. That little prick can bring down birds, mics and rats lie nothing else. And Dawg, you're right about the tree thing. He has tried to get up trees to get birds and ended up cutting his paw on rough bark.

**j shmuck** · 11-21-2012, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by boomer1976

My asshole cat is declawed because we had babies at the time as well. We got him from a shelter before they had to put him down. I didn't like to do it but the kids come first so that's that. Where he was older when we got him he would not stay inside no matter what we tried. Again he had to go out or he was going back to the shelter to die. That little prick can bring down birds, mics and rats lie nothing else. And Dawg, you're right about the tree thing. He has tried to get up trees to get birds and ended up cutting his paw on rough bark.

In my opinion protecting a baby, and the fact that it was either being declawed or death for the cat, is an acceptable reason for the cat to be declawed, and one of the only ones

**Lou Cypher** · 11-21-2012, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by j shmuck

In my opinion protecting a baby, and the fact that it was either being declawed or death for the cat, is an acceptable reason for the cat to be declawed, and one of the only ones

No it's not. It sounds suitably dramatic - "death or declawing" - but it's bullshit. How about regularly trimming the cat's claws? They're not sharp enough to hurt you if you keep them trimmed.

*Oh, and if the cat has no claws, it has no business being outside.

**boomer1976** · 11-21-2012, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Lou Cypher

No it's not. It sounds suitably dramatic - "death or declawing" - but it's bullshit. How about regularly trimming the cat's claws? They're not sharp enough to hurt you if you keep them trimmed.

*Oh, and if the cat has no claws, it has no business being outside.

I agree with you to a point. The small kids were # 1 no matter what in my mind. Having said that I would never do it again. The kids are older now. We really, really tried to make him an indoor cat but there was no way. I felt really bad about putting him outside with no front claws. While he was inside there were major behavioral issues with the cat, pissed off and pissing everywhere. Now he is the happiest motherfucker you could ever see. The neighbor's even let him come in their house and have a dish of food for him over there. He follows the kids around outside like an old dog. I just hope he doesn't get hurt because of the claws.

The death or declawing thing is a little misleading because he was a little older when we got him and they were thinking he wouldn't be adopted so he was close to getting the needle. For awhile he was okay inside and we chose to declaw . Then the fucker had the issues (which may be partially related to declawing) but the vet figured where he was on his own outside before getting to the shelter he was not going to be content in the house. So outside he went. Neither step here was taken lightly or done without a lot of thought.

**Lou Cypher** · 11-21-2012, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by boomer1976

I agree with you to a point. The small kids were # 1 no matter what in my mind. Having said that I would never do it again. The kids are older now. We really, really tried to make him an indoor cat but there was no way. I felt really bad about putting him outside with no front claws. While he was inside there were major behavioral issues with the cat, pissed off and pissing everywhere. Now he is the happiest motherfucker you could ever see. The neighbor's even let him come in their house and have a dish of food for him over there. He follows the kids around outside like an old dog. I just hope he doesn't get hurt because of the claws.

The death or declawing thing is a little misleading because he was a little older when we got him and they were thinking he wouldn't be adopted so he was close to getting the needle. For awhile he was okay inside and we chose to declaw . Then the fucker had the issues (which may be partially related to declawing) but the vet figured where he was on his own outside before getting to the shelter he was not going to be content in the house. So outside he went. Neither step here was taken lightly or done without a lot of thought.

It does sound like you agree with me. I'd add that if the kids were #1 and you felt that strongly about it, it wasn't the time to adopt a cat. If the stipulation for allowing one into your life is to first mutilate it, it's not a good idea.

This isn't personal, boomer. I feel very, very strongly about it. Howard and Beth won't admit that they insist on it because they know it's sick and cruel, but they have no problem ordering it to be done and then pretending that they just happened to find four declawed cats at NSAL. It makes me sick.

**Just Me** · 11-21-2012, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by boomer1976

I agree with you to a point. The small kids were # 1 no matter what in my mind. Having said that I would never do it again. The kids are older now. We really, really tried to make him an indoor cat but there was no way. I felt really bad about putting him outside with no front claws. While he was inside there were major behavioral issues with the cat, pissed off and pissing everywhere. Now he is the happiest motherfucker you could ever see. The neighbor's even let him come in their house and have a dish of food for him over there. He follows the kids around outside like an old dog. I just hope he doesn't get hurt because of the claws.

The death or declawing thing is a little misleading because he was a little older when we got him and they were thinking he wouldn't be adopted so he was close to getting the needle. For awhile he was okay inside and we chose to declaw . Then the fucker had the issues (which may be partially related to declawing) but the vet figured where he was on his own outside before getting to the shelter he was not going to be content in the house. So outside he went. Neither step here was taken lightly or done without a lot of thought.

Your cat would have been better off being peacefully euthanized instead of mutilated due to you and now allowed outside to potentially get seriously fucked up and/or killed because it can't protect itself. Lou was right: Get a fucking cat nail clipper and problem would have been solved.

**j shmuck** · 11-21-2012, 01:14 PM

I have always felt it declawing cats was animal abuse. Don't get me wrong it's no fun having a cat shred up your house.

Over the past decade or so my one of my family cats have torn up an entire 3 section couch.
Torn up an entire sunroom set (couch, 2 chairs, foot rest)
Torn out the window screens of all 14 windows in said sunroom.
Torn out 2 screen doors
done untol damage to the wood floor panes, tables, and chairs of the house.

This is despite the cat having scratching posts and the ability to venture outside whenever it pleases.

Nevertheless declawing an animal involved literally pulling it's nails out, think about that for a second.

Also god forbid the cat gets lost, it would be unable to fend for it self, catch any type of food, or even be able to climb up anything.
Basically the cat would be helpless.

Also, contra Booey, I feel that electric fences are abusive as well

Ironically both of these actions is far less abusive than Depace smacking his dog with a newspaper now and then