Confessions of a Chevy Volt Owner

[Jack Shit]

“Confessions of a Chevy Volt Owner.” A surprising, frank interview with an owner of a Volt after one year of driving.


203 miles per gallon in the first year at 16,000 miles. Not a typo. His previous car, a Volvo, got 18 miles per gallon.
“I wish I bought the car. I absolutely love it.” He leased it because he was skeptical of owning it. But, wishes he bought it.
“I didn’t buy it to save money.” The biggest surprise here. He bought it to help eliminate the need for oil.
“My home electricity bill is about the same as when my daughter lived here in high school.” After a year of plugging it in to his home, his electricity bill remains the same and didn’t go up as expected.
He responds to the common criticism, “The Chevy Cruze is cheaper.”“Well, a bicycle is even cheaper and saves more gas than the Cruze. So is a used car. So is walking. Look, this isn’t about money, it’s about oil.”


http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2012/02/28/n_chevrolet_volt_owner.cnnmoney/

[Jack Shit]

Also saw one of these in my town this week. Really a sharp looking rig:

http://www.teslasociety.com/pictures/global_warming/tesla_roadster.jpg

[Jack Shit]

I'm a rich asshole who drives a gas guzzling, double fuel injected 335i Coupe, I'll wait 'til BMW produces a plug in to go electric, but I think these cars are cool.

http://www.reveuro.com/inventory/10132/bmw-335i-coupe.01.JPG

[mattyfishrip197]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efNzhEKm3w4

[Mr. Potato Head]

I'm a rich asshole who drives a gas guzzling, double fuel injected 335i Coupe, I'll wait 'til BMW produces a plug in to go electric, but I think these cars are cool.

http://www.reveuro.com/inventory/10132/bmw-335i-coupe.01.JPG

You actually drive that piece of shit!? :jj:

I don't leave my estate unless I'm taking my private jumbo jet.

:dontcare:

[Jack Shit]

You actually drive that piece of shit!? :jj:

I don't leave my estate unless I'm taking my private jumbo jet.

:dontcare:

Yep, I love driving that piece a shit. It has a 6 speed manual tranny, that's my only worry about going electric or hybrid, does that spell doom for the manual transmission?

[Mr. Potato Head]

Yep, I love driving that piece a shit. It has a 6 speed manual tranny, that's my only worry about going electric or hybrid, does that spell doom for the manual transmission?

Actually, all the reports I've seen, say the high performance electric engines are faster on acceleration than combustion. It's instant and doesn't need to build up. I've never driven one, just what I've read and seen. :dontknow:

[Yellowfever]

That's some fine propaganda.

[MatthewT]

not even believable propaganda :facepalm:

electric bill didn't go up :facepalm:

his daughter uses as much electricity as an electric car :facepalm:

at least he didn't have his house burn down from the faulty recharging stations like a handful of other Volt owners did :cheer:

[R.P. McMurphy]

Actually, all the reports I've seen, say the high performance electric engines are faster on acceleration than combustion. It's instant and doesn't need to build up. I've never driven one, just what I've read and seen. :dontknow:

...correct. go to plasmaboy racing and see the white zombie. this guy is in oregon owns track records with it, the car is street legal. recharges within 20 minutes at the race track and ready to race again.

to the op. years ago chevy leased an electric car, lease only they refused to sell them but the cars worked so well everyone was shocked when chevy systematically picked up all the cars, settled all the leases, stocked the cars all ove l.a. and other places until they could be picked up and shipped to who knows where, crushers presumeably. ill see if i can find the vid

[R.P. McMurphy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h85IT8hadyk

[Mr. Potato Head]

That's some fine propaganda.

:crazy:

[R.P. McMurphy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rVTIpS5zb4

[Mr. Potato Head]

...correct. go to plasmaboy racing and see the white zombie. this guy is in oregon owns track records with it, the car is street legal. recharges within 20 minutes at the race track and ready to race again.

to the op. years ago chevy leased an electric car, lease only they refused to sell them but the cars worked so well everyone was shocked when chevy systematically picked up all the cars, settled all the leases, stocked the cars all ove l.a. and other places until they could be picked up and shipped to who knows where, crushers presumeably. ill see if i can find the vid

Reps brah! :c

[R.P. McMurphy]

Reps brah! :c

...w000t! back atcha. :hat:

[Jack Shit]

Approx. 2.5 cents per mile on electricity (7 cents per KwH to charge with non-tiered pricing) vs. 20 cents per mile on gas (at 20 MPG and $4 per gallon).

http://www.mychevroletvolt.com/chevy-volt-electric-car-off-peak-charging-cost-analysis

[R.P. McMurphy]

Approx. 2.5 cents per mile on electricity (7 cents per KwH to charge with non-tiered pricing) vs. 20 cents per mile on gas (at 20 MPG and $4 per gallon).

http://www.mychevroletvolt.com/chevy-volt-electric-car-off-peak-charging-cost-analysis

...my math says youre saving $3.50 every 20 miles. now figure in the cost of a 60 to 90k tesla to save gas? nah. the chevy is probably at least 40k. i wanted to buy the 1st year leaf really bad but i thought maybe better wait. i drive a dino loving '85 300 turbo diesel and dont care about 4.30 a gallon diesel cause i dont have a car payment. last tank i got 28 mpg and its a fucking tiger on the open road. slow off the line tho.

[MatthewT]

tesla replacement battery costs $40,000 :facepalm:

[Jack Shit]

...my math says youre saving $3.50 every 20 miles. now figure in the cost of a 60 to 90k tesla to save gas? nah. the chevy is probably at least 40k. i wanted to buy the 1st year leaf really bad but i thought maybe better wait. i drive a dino loving '85 300 turbo diesel and dont care about 4.30 a gallon diesel cause i dont have a car payment. last tank i got 28 mpg and its a fucking tiger on the open road. slow off the line tho.

Well, no one's buying a Tesla to save gas, Tesla buyers are like DeLorean buyers, they want to be the cool kids with the latest gizmo. I was very impressed with the look of the roadster, looks better than in the photos I've seen. Tiny two-seater about the size of the old Mazda Miata.

http://www.teslamotors.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/large-960/a_4508033_web.jpg

I thought about getting a Leaf but changed my mind. I'm a Bimmer enthusiast, I'll wait for the Ultimate Driving Machine. Love my 335i, and it gets really good freeway mileage, like 34 - 36 mpg, but stop and go driving and accelerating with the twin turbo you can almost hear the gas going gluk, gluk, gluk.

[Jack Shit]

tesla replacement battery costs $40,000 :facepalm:

What's probably going to happen is a "buy car/lease battery" marketing strategy for EV vehicles. Battery technology is rapidly advancing, won't be an issue a decade from now, at which point even a dolt like you will be driving an electric vehicle.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Well, no one's buying a Tesla to save gas, Tesla buyers are like DeLorean buyers, they want to be the cool kids with the latest gizmo. I was very impressed with the look of the roadster, looks better than in the photos I've seen. Tiny two-seater about the size of the old Mazda Miata.

I thought about getting a Leaf but changed my mind. I'm a Bimmer enthusiast, I'll wait for the Ultimate Driving Machine. Love my 335i, and it gets really good freeway mileage, like 34 - 36 mpg, but stop and go driving and accelerating with the twin turbo you can almost hear the gas going gluk, gluk, gluk.

...my neighbor has 2 M5's. one is an 89 the other one an '02. when he starts the '02 car its like you just heard a small explosion go off. i like the 5 series but bmws scare me although im all good with mercedes. i have a 1980 320i 136k original miles but the rear quarters are rusted. i dont drive it anymore but its a fun and fast car to drive, 5sp.

[Yellowfever]

Im so happy my tax dollars are going to funding this piece of shit no one wants. Gubment knows best.

[Jack Shit]

Im so happy my tax dollars are going to funding this piece of shit no one wants. Gubment knows best.


Bob Lutz, the former vice chairman at General Motors who helped develop the Volt, said he’s angered that the car has become politicized.

“I don’t mind criticizing Obama, I don’t mind criticizing the Democrats and, you know me, I think global warming is a huge hoax perpetrated by the global political left,” Lutz said. “But when it comes to starting to tell outright lies to advance your political purposes and damage an American company that is greatly on its way back, hurt American employment in Hamtramck, Michigan, I just think it’s totally outrageous.”

Lutz, a Republican, said he voted for former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum in the Michigan Republican primary in part because former Massachusetts Governor Romney wrote an opinion piece in the New York Times in 2008 headlined “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” about his opposition to a GM bailout.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/chevy-volt-the-whipping-boy-of-gop-politicians/2012/03/09/gIQANs0J1R_story.html


WHY DO REPUBLICANS HATE AMERICA?

[Jack Shit]

...my neighbor has 2 M5's. one is an 89 the other one an '02. when he starts the '02 car its like you just heard a small explosion go off. i like the 5 series but bmws scare me although im all good with mercedes. i have a 1980 320i 136k original miles but the rear quarters are rusted. i dont drive it anymore but its a fun and fast car to drive, 5sp.

What scares you about BMWs? I've found them no more or less reliable than other cars I've owned, but it's true that the usual R&M will cost you a bundle. I'm really partial to the 3 series... it's funny, the specs on the 335i are every bit as good as the M3 (6 cylinder with fuel injection vs. V8 without)

[MatthewT]

What's probably going to happen is a "buy car/lease battery" marketing strategy for EV vehicles. Battery technology is rapidly advancing, won't be an issue a decade from now, at which point even a dolt like you will be driving an electric vehicle.

don't wanna drive a go-cart, but thanks for saving the planet

:facepalm:

[Morning Wood]

I'm a rich asshole who drives a gas guzzling, double fuel injected 335i Coupe, I'll wait 'til BMW produces a plug in to go electric, but I think these cars are cool.

http://www.reveuro.com/inventory/10132/bmw-335i-coupe.01.JPG

Love 335 coupes. People don't realize how fast they are. I'm definitely a manual transmission guy, so electrics were never appealing to me.

[R.P. McMurphy]

What scares you about BMWs? I've found them no more or less reliable than other cars I've owned, but it's true that the usual R&M will cost you a bundle. I'm really partial to the 3 series... it's funny, the specs on the 335i are every bit as good as the M3 (6 cylinder with fuel injection vs. V8 without)

...im ok with the less exotic ones. ive been offered many and more 740i series all with some problem usually tansmission, always something. im a big fan of german engineering anything but i started long ago with mercedes benz 190 d's and 230 gassers and have a peticular thing for the 84 and 85 diesels i have. ive owned a bmw model 2002 before sorry i sold it and just recently responded to a craigslist ad with one for 600 bucks but the dude wrote back and said it was gone. it sucks my little 320i is rusted, all the running gear is the bomb but the body is fubar although not to the naked eye. right now im just keeping it where it is to keep people that want to park on my property away from the space. maybe one day i can find a good body with a blown engine and ill swap the motors strip the good shit and then scrap it.

[Yellowfever]

Bob Lutz, the former vice chairman at General Motors who helped develop the Volt, said he’s angered that the car has become politicized.

“I don’t mind criticizing Obama, I don’t mind criticizing the Democrats and, you know me, I think global warming is a huge hoax perpetrated by the global political left,” Lutz said. “But when it comes to starting to tell outright lies to advance your political purposes and damage an American company that is greatly on its way back, hurt American employment in Hamtramck, Michigan, I just think it’s totally outrageous.”

Lutz, a Republican, said he voted for former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum in the Michigan Republican primary in part because former Massachusetts Governor Romney wrote an opinion piece in the New York Times in 2008 headlined “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” about his opposition to a GM bailout.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/chevy-volt-the-whipping-boy-of-gop-politicians/2012/03/09/gIQANs0J1R_story.html


WHY DO REPUBLICANS HATE AMERICA?


He was at the helm as GM ran into the ground. who fuckin cares what that hack thinks.

[Jack Shit]

He was at the helm as GM ran into the ground. who fuckin cares what that hack thinks.

No surprise that he's a Republican, they're great at running companies and countries into the ground.

[R.P. McMurphy]

...he was on last weeks bill maher. clueless fuck even a physicist called him out, it was great

[RH Goatcabin]

Human Spleen.

[Yellowfever]

No surprise that he's a Republican, they're great at running companies and countries into the ground.

Yep, almost as bad as blacks who run every city they take over into the ground.

[MatthewT]

No surprise that he's a Republican, they're great at running companies and countries into the ground.

Republicans start countries, and start companies.

Liberals tear them both down.

What color is the sky in your world?

[HeinousMark]

tesla replacement battery costs $40,000 :facepalm:

http://media.techeblog.com/images/vintage-computer-ad.jpghttp://www.weirdpalace.com/img/lifestyle/vintage-computer-ads/vintage-computer-ads12.jpghttp://www.textually.org/textually/archives/archives/images/set2/old_mobile_phones_002.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-W9WP4Txq0Ak/TXuHDzTyJYI/AAAAAAAACOM/Box2E8_ocNU/s1600/Vintage%2BCell%2BPhone.bmp

[R.P. McMurphy]

...i actually have a couple of those phones in the 3rd pic.

[Droog]

He was at the helm as GM ran into the ground. who fuckin cares what that hack thinks.
Not true. Lutz was never at the helm at GM. He's a car guy and a damn good one at that. Back in the early 90's when Chrysler was faltering as they held onto their k-car design for too long, it was Lutz who was put in charge of the product line and came through with the cab-forward cars that were the best looking American cars on the road. Chryslers were selling so well, the company was awash in cash. So much so that Daimler acquired the company. Lee Iacocca made a big mistake in not picking Lutz to succeed him and has publicly stated that. Say what you want about his politics but you can't say shit about him as a car guy.

[HeinousMark]

Not true. Lutz was never at the helm at GM. He's a car guy and a damn good one at that. Back in the early 90's when Chrysler was faltering as they held onto their k-car design for too long, it was Lutz who was put in charge of the product line and came through with the cab-forward cars that were the best looking American cars on the road. Chryslers were selling so well, the company was awash in cash. So much so that Daimler acquired the company. Lee Iacocca made a big mistake in not picking Lutz to succeed him and has publicly stated that. Say what you want about his politics but you can't say shit about him as a car guy.

Facts = Liberal lies

[Droog]

Facts = Liberal lies
No shit. I'm amazed by the bullshit people come up with. I used to think misinformation was just ignorance. But after watching and listening to this misinformation campaign long enough, it became clear that it is a concerted effort. No one is interested in facts. They just want to be right.

[HeinousMark]

No shit. I'm amazed by the bullshit people come up with. I used to think misinformation was just ignorance. But after watching and listening to this misinformation campaign long enough, it became clear that it is a concerted effort. No one is interested in facts. They just want to be right.

Freaky, huh?

I often wonder if it's an issue of pride, or if some people are so scared of reality that they embrace delusions that confirm their world view, or WTF???

[R.P. McMurphy]

...lutz denies global warming and voted for santorum. how much more do i need to know he should make cars and stay out of politics.

[Droog]

Freaky, huh?

I often wonder if it's an issue of pride, or if some people are so scared of reality that they embrace delusions that confirm their world view, or WTF???
I don't know. It's scary how truth takes a backseat to being right. What ever happened to critical thinking? I watch the first five minutes of The Daily Show when John Stewart catches people in outright lies and doublespeak and I wonder how there's so many people denying that it's happening.

...lutz denies global warming and voted for santorum. how much more do i need to know he should make cars and stay out of politics.
I agree. He should stay out of politics. However, the auto industry has had politicians up their asses since the early 70's. I don't blame him for not liking liberals. Right or wrong, they made life harder him over the decades.

[Yellowfever]

No shit. I'm amazed by the bullshit people come up with. I used to think misinformation was just ignorance. But after watching and listening to this misinformation campaign long enough, it became clear that it is a concerted effort. No one is interested in facts. They just want to be right.

My bad nigga, I just googled the guy, dont know much about him, obviously.

[Yellowfever]

Freaky, huh?

I often wonder if it's an issue of pride, or if some people are so scared of reality that they embrace delusions that confirm their world view, or WTF???

Like "diversity is our strength" and "we're all the same"?

[BeetTheBoxer]

Like "diversity is our strength" and "we're all the same"?

:shit:

[Yellowfever]

:shit:

Shit post from a shit poster who is a shit troll.

[BeetTheBoxer]

Shit post from a shit poster who is a shit troll.

good to see you are developing some self-awareness. finally :hat::afro:

[Nemo]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/bam_bad_karma_BpieVfbSfdOD5OnZ2ksGGL

The legendary test drivers at Consumer Reports this week got their hands on a $107,000 dream machine — the Fisker Karma, an electric sports car that goes zero-to-60 in the blink of an eye.

Sort of.

Trouble is, the car conked out faster than you can say “lemon.”

“We buy about 80 cars a year and this is the first time in memory that we have had a car that is undriveable before it has finished our check-in process,” noted CR, which had to call a flatbed truck to tow the brickmobile away.

It wouldn’t be much of a tale, except for one thing: The clunker was created by a company that’s been feasting on your tax dollars — specifically, a $529 million green-energy loan guarantee from Team Obama.

[R.P. McMurphy]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/bam_bad_karma_BpieVfbSfdOD5OnZ2ksGGL

The legendary test drivers at Consumer Reports this week got their hands on a $107,000 dream machine — the Fisker Karma, an electric sports car that goes zero-to-60 in the blink of an eye.

Sort of.

Trouble is, the car conked out faster than you can say “lemon.”

“We buy about 80 cars a year and this is the first time in memory that we have had a car that is undriveable before it has finished our check-in process,” noted CR, which had to call a flatbed truck to tow the brickmobile away.

It wouldn’t be much of a tale, except for one thing: The clunker was created by a company that’s been feasting on your tax dollars — specifically, a $529 million green-energy loan guarantee from Team Obama.

...and then there are cars like the white zombie that are ignored. i dont get it. for our fastest way out of this its time to convert to natural gas now. keep the same engines in cars with a simple modification thats been being done since the early 60's. natural gas gas stations are no problem either, we have it piped into millions of homes efforlessly and there is a couple of century supply of the stuff.

[Nemo]

...and then there are cars like the white zombie that are ignored. i dont get it. for our fastest way out of this its time to convert to natural gas now. keep the same engines in cars with a simple modification thats been being done since the early 60's. natural gas gas stations are no problem either, we have it piped into millions of homes efforlessly and there is a couple of century supply of the stuff.

private jets and limos should be taxed 1000 percent for starters...:coffee:
and then maybe one chimney per family mandate.

[InstigatinMofo]

Freaky, huh?

I often wonder if it's an issue of pride, or if some people are so scared of reality that they embrace delusions that confirm their world view, or WTF???

you are replying to the guy who denies there's evidence for the theory of evolution.... funny and ironic!

but serioulsy, learning things like this help with the frustration of dealing with people with the IQ of an amoeba... a little bit

People Filter Information
(http://www.whatmakesthemclick.net/2011/04/02/100-things-you-should-know-about-people-97-people-filter-information/)
the more uncertain you are, the more you dig in and defend your ideas (http://www.whatmakesthemclick.net/2010/11/01/100-things-you-should-know-about-people-46-the-more-uncertain-you-are-the-more-you-dig-in-and-defend-your-ideas/)

The Average Reading Level In the USA Is Grade 8 (http://www.whatmakesthemclick.net/2011/01/23/100-things-you-should-know-about-people-54-the-average-reading-level-in-the-usa-is-grade-8/)

the backfire effect (http://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/)

Anecdotes Persuade More Than Data (http://www.whatmakesthemclick.net/2011/02/28/100-things-you-should-know-about-people-67-anecdotes-persuade-more-than-data/)

Culture shapes our brains (http://www.whatmakesthemclick.net/2010/02/21/100-things-you-should-know-about-people-26-culture-shapes-our-brains/)


I don't know. It's scary how truth takes a backseat to being right. What ever happened to critical thinking?

lol

[InstigatinMofo]

and then maybe one chimney per family mandate.
BethO says NO !

[Morrisb]

Stern fans are the richest of the rich, with luxury to afford whatever they want. :jj:

[Droog]

you are replying to the guy who denies there's evidence for the theory of evolution.... funny and ironickey word being theory. Funny that the scientist who headed the human genome project believes in God. I don't deny science. I don't believe that life came from non-organic material on its own and evolved into all living things. How did thought come into play? What's the reason for any of this? There simply isn't one.

[Droog]

And I never said there was no evidence for the theory of evolution. I just think the evidence for it is inconclusive.

[InstigatinMofo]

key word being theory.

lol
go search what scientific theory really means. i lost count how many times i had to explain this while debating creationists on the net, it's almost a cliché by now.
do you feel the same way about the theory of gravity? cause if yo do, you might just float the fuck away

http://i.imgur.com/40GPa.png


And I never said there was no evidence for the theory of evolution. I just think the evidence for it is inconclusive.

if it really were inconclusive, i would even take it back.


Funny that the scientist who headed the human genome project believes in God.
good for him. i hope that his personal beliefs and biases dont ever get in the way of his findings. a true scientist then.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLeztJkhi4U

[MatthewT]

oh, great. the only person who truly understands gravity is on a howard stern messageboard

everyone else just has theories